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Workswell WCB-R-066 frame: To paint or NOT to paint?

Old 07-27-16, 04:58 PM
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Workswell WCB-R-066 frame: To paint or NOT to paint?

Hello folks,

I know between here and another popular bike forum I have personally met some terrific people that have used this frame as a foundation for some great road bike builds.

What I have NOT seen are many of the builders choosing to paint these frames. Just about ALL of the builders have chosen to stick with the matte black finish.

I currently have ready to be finalized my FIRST carbon bike frame and was considering having Workswell paint it midnight blue or white. The reason being is I seldom if ever see a road bike (or bike of ANY kind) in midnight blue and I'm not sure why. I really dig the color! But I'm also considering white. Heh...I'm a little on the fence of you haven't noticed.

So let me know why you decided NOT to have Workswell paint the frame. I DO think the ones I have seen look great unpainted its just there are alot of them. And give any recommendations of who or what company to use to paint this frame and please post pics of YOUR PAINTED 066 bikes for comparison.

That's it! Thank in advance cuz I'm looking forward to seeing YOUR builds
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Painting has added about two weeks to the delivery time ... string argumanet Against.

On the other hand I plan to have the bike for the rest of my life so getting it painted makes a certain amount of sense---as you say, matte black CF bikes are all the rage, and certainly can look quite good, but there are options ....

I worked out a simple two-tone pattern and might accent it with vinyl tape stripes---I also have a couple custom decal designs in mind. Options are many.

I was going to put a big "Chinabomb" decal down the downtube, but nowadays I'd have the FBI pulling me over all the time.
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Workswell's cheap paint jobs are quite rudimentary. I wouldn't do it. A good paint job on a frame that needs no work costs $3-500. I wouldn't do that either. Matte black is perfect for me.
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I'm cheap. I wanted cheapest decent frame I could get and adding paint would make it not as cheap. As stated, their paint jobs are not great but they are cheap and I think if you just do one solid color it could be ok. I just wouldn't let them do anything too fancy
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I think paint was $30. So, given the normal 100% markup ... the are using fiver rattlecans? That's a lot of paint.
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Ah the usual suspects I see. LOL

Seriously, thank you boys for your input. This bike for me may very well be the last I will be able to afford to build in quite some time. So maybe I should keep it simple and not pour a great deal into the frame just yet.

Some of you boys know I have ordered a set of 50mm CF clinchers for this build along with good quality components so perhaps not putting a big investment into painting the frame should be the thing to do.

There has to be a company or person who will do an Earl Scheib special
type of decent job for a couple of hundred bucks. Perhaps having Workswell do a dark blue or white solid color paint job. I would like to see some member examples of an 066 frame painted by ANYONE, ANY color.

Time is what I have plenty of after seeing my doc today I STILL am not supposed to do any weight bearing on my surgically repaired knee for at least another 4 weeks.

Again I hope to get some input of ANY individual or company that can do a decent paint job without spending a fortune.
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If only you could powder coat a carbon frame, your problem would be solved. Unfortunately that isn't possible.
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I did paint my first frame, and the 2nd one is building now also custom painted. People are right on the extra delivery time, I ordered mine on July 5th and it still hasn't shipped.
In my case I don't care since I can continue to ride the first one.
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I did paint my first frame, and the 2nd one is building now also custom painted. People are right on the extra delivery time, I ordered mine on July 5th and it still hasn't shipped.
In my case I don't care since I can continue to ride the first one.
As I said time is on my side...yes it is! Wait, I've heard that somewhere before. Jeez I crack myself up.

Robert is the one one who lit a fire under my ass. He said start now and you'll have something to do while rehabbing.

I've already made a hasty decision to go with red hubs and nipples on my wheels. Thanks for that Bob. LOL

I think I'll have to go with a red/white combo. Or maybe just do a 1/2 black 1/2 red combo.

Aw hell I just want to do something that's different. Nuthin fancy
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Robert is the one one who lit a fire under my ass.
Please keep these forums family appropriate.
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I am a strong advocate of decorating a black bike with colored parts and accessories rather than paint on the frame. So red hubs and nipples, cables, saddle, etc would make s dy-no-mite look on that frame. Or if the rims will be alloy, red anodized rims. Yeah, baby!
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I would like to genuinely beg your pardon. I'm a bit frazzled after a LONG day and sometimes tend to let my comments get away from me.
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I am a strong advocate of decorating a black bike with colored parts and accessories rather than paint on the frame. So red hubs and nipples, cables, saddle, etc would make s dy-no-mite look on that frame. Or if the rims will be alloy, red anodized rims. Yeah, baby!
You sir are the voice of reason and clearly the "conscience' of our merry band of misfits.

I am going to leave the frame color black, I'll do barber pole black and red bar tape and a black and red saddle.

The decal kit I'm going to apply to my wheels will be Easton Aero EC90 (not to falsely misrepresent my wheel manufacturer) but because Easton aero EC90 are the bars I have but they will be covered with tape. That and it take an otherwise bland looking set of Chinese 50mm carbon clinchers and makes them and my bike look VERY COOL! I gotta find out what are the type of red tyres I saw with the EC90 wheels. Anyone know if Conti makes a RED 700x25c GP4000 sII?

My cable will be black (you think I should have gone with red?)

It will be UNIQUELY mine and I'm out of breath just thinking about it. There is CLEARLY something wrong with me.

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So ... a$$ gets called out but repeated mentions of how hot red nipples would look .... on the spokes of course ...

Mr. penmanparker: I didn't have the budget to shop for seatpost, stem, tape, saddle, cables etc all color-matched, so I am going with basic black for all except tape and hoods. I like the look you describe but in any case the gray Ultegra would have spoiled everything.

In any case, other riders will be passing me sop fast they won't have time to see what the bike looks like.
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So ... a$$ gets called out but repeated mentions of how hot red nipples would look .... on the spokes of course ...

Mr. penmanparker: I didn't have the budget to shop for seatpost, stem, tape, saddle, cables etc all color-matched, so I am going with basic black for all except tape and hoods. I like the look you describe but in any case the gray Ultegra would have spoiled everything.

In any case, other riders will be passing me sop fast they won't have time to see what the bike looks like.
Hey buddy...you have to justify yourself to NO ONE. I have an idea of what I'm gonna do but I got plenty of time to change. You need to PM me your intended design. I would love to see it
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I think Vittorio makes some colored tires in 290 tpi ... similar to Conti.
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So ... a$$ gets called out but repeated mentions of how hot red nipples would look .... on the spokes of course ...

Mr. penmanparker: I didn't have the budget to shop for seatpost, stem, tape, saddle, cables etc all color-matched, so I am going with basic black for all except tape and hoods. I like the look you describe but in any case the gray Ultegra would have spoiled everything.

In any case, other riders will be passing me sop fast they won't have time to see what the bike looks like.
I wouldn't spend the extra bucks on colored headset, seat post, stem, etc either. Just on the items like bar tape, saddle, hubs, rims, tires, cables, QR skewers, etc, which don't cost more in color. I mean I am not going to buy CK stuff just to get color.
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You sir are the voice of reason and clearly the "conscience' of our merry band of misfits.

I am going to leave the frame color black, I'll do barber pole black and red bar tape and a black and red saddle.

The decal kit I'm going to apply to my wheels will be Easton Aero EC90 (not to falsely misrepresent my wheel manufacturer) but because Easton aero EC90 are the bars I have but they will be covered with tape. That and it take an otherwise bland looking set of Chinese 50mm carbon clinchers and makes them and my bike look VERY COOL! I gotta find out what are the type of red tyres I saw with the EC90 wheels. Anyone know if Conti makes a RED 700x25c GP4000 sII?

My cable will be black (you think I should have gone with red?)

It will be UNIQUELY mine and I'm out of breath just thinking about it. There is CLEARLY something wrong with me.
Conti does have colored GP 4000S II tires, but I don't know how could a selection and price you will find for them in 25 mm.
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Hey buddy...you have to justify yourself to NO ONE. I have an idea of what I'm gonna do but I got plenty of time to change. You need to PM me your intended design. I would love to see it
Your own answer here is just as valid for your own question about whether you should have gone with red cables. Your choice.
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There could be some criticism of using Easton decals on non-Easton wheels even though you have Easton parts elsewhere on the bike. You can likely get an Easton decal that would fit on a frame tube. And you can get custom wheel decals made, but they are pricey. I think these were $180 for a complete, two-sided, two-wheel set at www.carbonwheeldecals.com:

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You sir are the voice of reason and clearly the "conscience' of our merry band of misfits.

I am going to leave the frame color black, I'll do barber pole black and red bar tape and a black and red saddle.

The decal kit I'm going to apply to my wheels will be Easton Aero EC90 (not to falsely misrepresent my wheel manufacturer) but because Easton aero EC90 are the bars I have but they will be covered with tape. That and it take an otherwise bland looking set of Chinese 50mm carbon clinchers and makes them and my bike look VERY COOL! I gotta find out what are the type of red tyres I saw with the EC90 wheels. Anyone know if Conti makes a RED 700x25c GP4000 sII?

My cable will be black (you think I should have gone with red?)

It will be UNIQUELY mine and I'm out of breath just thinking about it. There is CLEARLY something wrong with me.
So you're putting the brand of handlebar you have on your wheels? To each his own, but that's a VERY odd choice and a strange thing to want to advertise if you ask me. "Sweet wheels, are they're Eastons? No, but I have Easton handlebars so..."

Not trying to insult or anything, just giving you an outside perspective. If it were me, and I know it's not, I would get some custom decals made, especially if you want it to be YOURS and UNIQUE. I doubt you'd need to go to a specialty carbon decal maker. CARBON COWBOY would be a pretty dope wheel decal; in gloss black no less. Hmmmmm.

For the tires, Serfas makes a colored Seca.

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Personally I would put an Easton sticker on the bike frame somewhere rather than on the wheels, since the wheels aren't Easton's. Leaving from frame black is also good choice. Put the color elsewhere.

Off topic, but how many of you are running 25mm tires? I have Conti's that are rubbing the inside of my NDS chain stay. Don't like it. The dish on my wheels should be good, but I'll double check. I'm on wide rims now and my new carbon wheels (coming next week) are just as wide. Don't really want to revert back to 23mm, but might have too.
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Personally I would put an Easton sticker on the bike frame somewhere rather than on the wheels, since the wheels aren't Easton's. Leaving from frame black is also good choice. Put the color elsewhere.

Off topic, but how many of you are running 25mm tires? I have Conti's that are rubbing the inside of my NDS chain stay. Don't like it. The dish on my wheels should be good, but I'll double check. I'm on wide rims now and my new carbon wheels (coming next week) are just as wide. Don't really want to revert back to 23mm, but might have too.
I'm running 25 mm tubular with no problem. Plenty of clearance. But on tubulars rim width makes no difference. Your 25 mm clinchers are probably measuring more like 28s on the wide rims.
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I'm running 25 mm tubular with no problem. Plenty of clearance. But on tubulars rim width makes no difference. Your 25 mm clinchers are probably measuring more like 28s on the wide rims.

I think you're right. I know they run a bit wider than others, and love the tires. The ride is so much nicer on 25's than 23's.
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There could be some criticism of using Easton decals on non-Easton wheels even though you have Easton parts elsewhere on the bike. You can likely get an Easton decal that would fit on a frame tube. And you can get custom wheel decals made, but they are pricey. I think these were $180 for a complete, two-sided, two-wheel set at www.carbonwheeldecals.com:

Criticism? Well I suppose that I'll just have to put on my big boy pants and deal with that.
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