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Di2 reliability is a closed issue and has been for quite some time.
J. |
Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 18992502)
Let's be a little more fair, though. How many bikes are on the road (and off) with mechanical shifting vs. electronic and those bikes have been out there for how many years? Not surprising then that you might see a few additional issues and without it causing much of a stir.
When Shimano continues to offer replacement batteries ten years after updating an old battery to a new style I'll have a little more faith in electronic shifting. Until then, I'll continue to actively suppress any interest I might have in it. My experience is not alone. Other riders I ride with with Di2 have all had trouble free ownership. I installed my di2 in late 2011 and time will tell if the system is robust beyond now and if Shimano continues to support it. So far other than the original DA electronic with the bulky non can-bus wiring things are readily available with more things being added that are plug and play. Non conforming bikes can gain even greater value from electronic. Tandems and time trial bikes come to mind. As an example my old school steel downtube shift tandem has one real loooooong cable going the the RD and a nice mushy feeling RD to go along with it. Unlike a single you can't take a glance down to see what cog you are in but my Garmin edge shows me via the communication it has with the Di2 system. My next tandem will be di2. |
Originally Posted by f4rrest
(Post 18992840)
I just replaced my 2-year-old DI2 battery. It cost less than a chain. I consider it a consumable.
Is my math wrong ? |
Originally Posted by Steve B.
(Post 18994854)
Really ?. Just for giggles I checked on Jenson. Di2 external battery is $50. Internal is $100. An Ultegra 11 SPD chain is $22
Is my math wrong ? Even at the price if I had to replace the battery I would just consider it an acceptable price of maintaining the system. I like it that much. Crisp shifts and almost maintenance free. I don't miss replacing the cables but that's another issue. |
Originally Posted by TCR Rider
(Post 18994991)
Well your math isn't wrong unless you consider I've been running Di2 for over 2 years and it has functioned seamlessly including the internal battery. In that time I've gone through at least 3 chains so that would bring the price comparison closer into line. Since I am still on the original battery so who knows how many more chains would come into the equation.
Even at the price if I had to replace the battery I would just consider it an acceptable price of maintaining the system. I like it that much. Crisp shifts and almost maintenance free. I don't miss replacing the cables but that's another issue. Of course you are changing a chain and cassette regardless if it's Di2 or mechanical, so kind of a weird comparison. I only took umbrage at your comment that a battery is cheaper then a chain, as it's clearly not. That said, I think the longer term experience of Di2 is it's going to be terrific in terms of reliability, even if you have to replace a battery every 3-5 years. Replacing things that might get damaged - derailers, shifters, is a different story as those Di2 parts might run 3 times what a mechanical part will run. Still, I've had 3 mild crashes on my 10spd. Ultegra stuff and while suffering some surface scrapes, everything works 10 years later. |
Originally Posted by Steve B.
(Post 18995089)
........Of course you are changing a chain and cassette regardless if it's Di2 or mechanical, so kind of a weird comparison.
I only took umbrage at your comment that a battery is cheaper then a chain, as it's clearly not. That said, I think the longer term experience of Di2 is it's going to be terrific in terms of reliability, even if you have to replace a battery every 3-5 years. Replacing things that might get damaged - derailers, shifters, is a different story as those Di2 parts might run 3 times what a mechanical part will run. Still, I've had 3 mild crashes on my 10spd. Ultegra stuff and while suffering some surface scrapes, everything works 10 years later. BTW I've had a crash with the Di2 and other than having to reset it from accident mode at the junction box it came through unscathed. |
Lithium Ion batteries put out more power in smaller package but they suck for long use. The old NiCads would last for years but they couldn't get the battery small enough yet produce the kind of power they wanted. So you have to pay for the power and portability with more frequent battery replacements. This is why it's important when looking at a expensive light that the battery can be replaced when the time comes.
Nickle metal hydride batteries are just as bad, this is why when I bought a new drill a few years back I got a one with a lifetime warranty including the battery! |
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