Is Resonance a Better Word than Feel to Describe Different Frame Materials?
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Is Resonance a Better Word than Feel to Describe Different Frame Materials?
I know people get sideways sometimes when talking about the differences in "feel" between carbon fiber, aluminum, titanium and steel. Where feel can sometimes mean the way a bike responds or handles in a corner.
When I talk about it, I actually mean the way a bike resonates or vibrates based on the different road surfaces. Mostly terrible chip seal in my area.
Can we all agree that different frame materials resonate different on different types of roads? And that difference can be felt regardless of geometry?
When I talk about it, I actually mean the way a bike resonates or vibrates based on the different road surfaces. Mostly terrible chip seal in my area.
Can we all agree that different frame materials resonate different on different types of roads? And that difference can be felt regardless of geometry?
08-08-16, 03:01 PM
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I agree with @nycphotography It's only a better word if it describes what one means by "feel."
That said, I kind of agree with you, @Jarrett2; resonance is a good word for the distinguishing characteristic of the different materials, because it is something I hear as much as feel in a tactile way. And the way it sounds corresponds to the way it feels.
That said, I kind of agree with you, @Jarrett2; resonance is a good word for the distinguishing characteristic of the different materials, because it is something I hear as much as feel in a tactile way. And the way it sounds corresponds to the way it feels.
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It isn't just material that affects feel, but wall thickness and tube diameter and shape also. Would hi-ten steel tubes with walls more than twice as thick as Reynolds 953 feel the same as the thinner type just because they are both steel? I don't think so. As carbon frames have become more refined, the criticism that they feel dead has largely disappeared.
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It isn't just material that affects feel, but wall thickness and tube diameter and shape also. Would hi-ten steel tubes with walls more than twice as thick as Reynolds 953 feel the same as the thinner type just because they are both steel? I don't think so. As carbon frames hsve become more fragile, the criticism that they feel dead has largely disappeared.
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I know people get sideways sometimes when talking about the differences in "feel" between carbon fiber, aluminum, titanium and steel. Where feel can sometimes mean the way a bike responds or handles in a corner.
When I talk about it, I actually mean the way a bike resonates or vibrates based on the different road surfaces. Mostly terrible chip seal in my area.
Can we all agree that different frame materials resonate different on different types of roads? And that difference can be felt regardless of geometry?
When I talk about it, I actually mean the way a bike resonates or vibrates based on the different road surfaces. Mostly terrible chip seal in my area.
Can we all agree that different frame materials resonate different on different types of roads? And that difference can be felt regardless of geometry?
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Resonance is essentially natural frequency, and then the harmonic frequencies. It is all controlled by combined spring ratio against a mass.
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