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Old "surfer" motorist rages on cyclist -- "You're a dead man"

Old 08-16-16, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfreezesdefy3 View Post
After he said if there were no witnesses around he'd kill me , that's when I would have flipped the switch and pummeled him , and there's no judge that when they saw that tape s , that would not dismiss those charges, if you felt your life was in danger,
Yep, I think that's assault - threatening someone with serious bodily harm. Big, fat, and angry motorist vs. calm, short cyclist. Head butt, then take his car keys?
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Old 08-16-16, 12:39 PM
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that guy watches to many dirty harry movies .
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Old 08-16-16, 12:49 PM
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Popping a senior if not a senior in one SW FL city will get you jail time IMMEDIATELY and a $15,000.00 bond for release.
Automatic felony in CA.
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Old 08-16-16, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy View Post
Popping a senior if not a senior in one SW FL city will get you jail time IMMEDIATELY and a $15,000.00 bond for release.
What about stand on your ground law . He was threaten to kill the cyclist .
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Old 08-16-16, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mapeiboy View Post
What about stand on your ground law . He was threaten to kill the cyclist .
One: fundamental misunderstanding of how Stand Your Ground works; Two: CA does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
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Old 08-16-16, 01:33 PM
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He's our huckleberry...
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Old 08-16-16, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mapeiboy View Post
What about stand on your ground law . He was threaten to kill the cyclist .
SEE BELOW

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One: fundamental misunderstanding of how Stand Your Ground works; Two: CA does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
Exactly, a common misunderstanding of STAND YOUR GROUND
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Old 08-16-16, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq View Post
One: fundamental misunderstanding of how Stand Your Ground works; Two: CA does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?
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Old 08-16-16, 01:53 PM
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So if the guy has indeed closed his business due to all the backlash from his antics, I'm thinking Chapter Two might read something like he waits in ambush to run over a large group of riders, then blows his brains out.
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Old 08-16-16, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickgm60 View Post
Yep, I think that's assault - threatening someone with serious bodily harm. Big, fat, and angry motorist vs. calm, short cyclist. Head butt, then take his car keys?
I think the cyclist was too vertically challenged (corroborated numerous times by statements to that effect from the motorist) for a head butt to be effective. He struck me as more of a knobby knee to the groin then judo chop to the back of the neck guy.

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Old 08-16-16, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd View Post
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?
Legally, I'd imagine that your only option would be to report the threat to the police. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think that a mere threat (even if it was death) is no justification for assault. Now, if the surfer guy touched the cyclist in any way, he'd obviously be justified in defending himself, regardless of the surfer's age.

Just my opinion, but in today's litigious society, it is never a good idea to actually start a physical confrontation, regardless of the words exchanged.
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Old 08-16-16, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd View Post
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?
Stand Your Ground says you don't have to retreat. It will not excuse throwing the first punch.
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Old 08-16-16, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd View Post
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?


Walk away?
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Old 08-16-16, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cdnredraider View Post
Stand Your Ground says you don't have to retreat. It will not excuse throwing the first punch.
Immediate threat of physical harm is the bottom line for self defense. Duty to retreat or stand your ground, as the case may be, only apply when there is already a believable threat of imminent physical harm, I think.
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Old 08-16-16, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by snidely View Post
Walk away?
Sounds about right.
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Old 08-16-16, 05:31 PM
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T'were me, I'd have reacted the the same way this cyclist did. Notice at the outset he said "don't hit me" and didn't get touched...just verbally abused. It's hard to "walk away' from an in your face encounter like that while straddling one's bike. If, again me, this had turned into a serious physically violent attack things would have been handled differently.
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Old 08-16-16, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Samuraidog View Post
Legally, I'd imagine that your only option would be to report the threat to the police. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think that a mere threat (even if it was death) is no justification for assault. Now, if the surfer guy touched the cyclist in any way, he'd obviously be justified in defending himself, regardless of the surfer's age.

Just my opinion, but in today's litigious society, it is never a good idea to actually start a physical confrontation, regardless of the words exchanged.
Yeah, but the surfer dude wasn't just standing there passively stating a few non chalet statements, he was behaving in a threatening and intimidating manner. I think if the bike dude had behaved anything but immaculately (as he did) then the surfer dude would have attacked him.
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Old 08-16-16, 06:00 PM
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Plenty of maniacs around that can't drive but then thanks to one I got new bike from insurance lol
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Old 08-16-16, 06:28 PM
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cheryl never came to the rescue did she
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cheryl never came to the rescue did she
Shirley, you jest!
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Old 08-17-16, 06:56 AM
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The guy doesn't look old to me.
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Old 08-17-16, 02:38 PM
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Shirley, you jest!
..and, stop calling him Shirley **(rimshot) **
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Old 09-05-16, 04:16 PM
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What happened to this guy. Did he ever get arrested?

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The guy doesn't look old to me.
I'm curious what happened to Mr Lewis. Did he ever get arrested or charged? It would be kind of amazing if he didn't. Watching that video again the literary of threats: killing, assault, homophobic slurs.
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The cheese has slid off his triscuit.

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