Old "surfer" motorist rages on cyclist -- "You're a dead man"
08-16-16, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfreezesdefy3
After he said if there were no witnesses around he'd kill me , that's when I would have flipped the switch and pummeled him , and there's no judge that when they saw that tape s , that would not dismiss those charges, if you felt your life was in danger,
08-16-16, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy
Popping a senior if not a senior in one SW FL city will get you jail time IMMEDIATELY and a $15,000.00 bond for release.
08-16-16, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy
Popping a senior if not a senior in one SW FL city will get you jail time IMMEDIATELY and a $15,000.00 bond for release.
08-16-16, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mapeiboy
What about stand on your ground law . He was threaten to kill the cyclist .
08-16-16, 01:33 PM
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He's our huckleberry...
08-16-16, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mapeiboy
What about stand on your ground law . He was threaten to kill the cyclist .
Originally Posted by kc0bbq
One: fundamental misunderstanding of how Stand Your Ground works; Two: CA does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
08-16-16, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
One: fundamental misunderstanding of how Stand Your Ground works; Two: CA does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
08-16-16, 01:53 PM
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So if the guy has indeed closed his business due to all the backlash from his antics, I'm thinking Chapter Two might read something like he waits in ambush to run over a large group of riders, then blows his brains out.
08-16-16, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickgm60
Yep, I think that's assault - threatening someone with serious bodily harm. Big, fat, and angry motorist vs. calm, short cyclist. Head butt, then take his car keys?
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08-16-16, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?
Just my opinion, but in today's litigious society, it is never a good idea to actually start a physical confrontation, regardless of the words exchanged.
08-16-16, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd
So what are you legally allowed to do if someone threatens to kill you?
08-16-16, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cdnredraider
Stand Your Ground says you don't have to retreat. It will not excuse throwing the first punch.
08-16-16, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by snidely
Walk away?
08-16-16, 05:31 PM
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T'were me, I'd have reacted the the same way this cyclist did. Notice at the outset he said "don't hit me" and didn't get touched...just verbally abused. It's hard to "walk away' from an in your face encounter like that while straddling one's bike. If, again me, this had turned into a serious physically violent attack things would have been handled differently.
08-16-16, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Samuraidog
Legally, I'd imagine that your only option would be to report the threat to the police. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think that a mere threat (even if it was death) is no justification for assault. Now, if the surfer guy touched the cyclist in any way, he'd obviously be justified in defending himself, regardless of the surfer's age.
Just my opinion, but in today's litigious society, it is never a good idea to actually start a physical confrontation, regardless of the words exchanged.
Just my opinion, but in today's litigious society, it is never a good idea to actually start a physical confrontation, regardless of the words exchanged.
08-17-16, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by redfooj
cheryl never came to the rescue did she
08-17-16, 06:56 AM
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The guy doesn't look old to me.
08-17-16, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RichSPK
Shirley, you jest!
09-05-16, 04:16 PM
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What happened to this guy. Did he ever get arrested?
Originally Posted by TimothyH
The guy doesn't look old to me.
09-05-16, 04:36 PM
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The cheese has slid off his triscuit.
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