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Enve SES 4.5 AR - thoughts?

Old 09-14-16, 08:14 PM
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Rim brakes are dead, the chicken is running headless around the yard.
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Saw this a couple of days ago.

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Rim brakes are dead, the chicken is running headless around the yard.
They'll be dead until the industry needs something else to sell you. Then rim brakes will be "in".
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Rim brakes forever. They work just fine.
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I need to choose rotors and tires. And where to buy them. They shouldn't need a lot of maintenance, right?
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Old 09-15-16, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I need to choose rotors and tires. And where to buy them. They shouldn't need a lot of maintenance, right?
I'm going to soon be purchasing these Shimano Ice-tech Freeza rotors for my new build: Shimano RT99 Ice-Tech FREEZA CL Disc Rotor | Chain Reaction Cycles

Running them with TRP Spyre calipers and Campy levers. Ought to elicit a few groans
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Old 09-16-16, 11:05 AM
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They'll be dead until the industry needs something else to sell you. Then rim brakes will be "in".
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Rim brakes forever. They work just fine.
Lol...In 5 years I'll bring this back as a Zombie thread. Seriously though, considering what Spesh proved recently via wind tunnel testing, and...have you seen the Parlee they brought to EuroBike?

Considering that wheel manufacturers will no longer have to consider a braking surface...I don't see things going back.

But, like I said...5 years, zombie thread!
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I need to choose rotors and tires. And where to buy them. They shouldn't need a lot of maintenance, right?
Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
I'm going to soon be purchasing these Shimano Ice-tech Freeza rotors for my new build: Shimano RT99 Ice-Tech FREEZA CL Disc Rotor | Chain Reaction Cycles

Running them with TRP Spyre calipers and Campy levers. Ought to elicit a few groans
Just an FYI...sometimes Ice Tech rotors will not clear a caliper that isn't Shimano cleanly...those radiator fins on the inside section of the disc rubs up (slightly) against BB7 calipers for instance- I learned this the hard way.
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Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs View Post
Lol...In 5 years I'll bring this back as a Zombie thread. Seriously though, considering what Spesh proved recently via wind tunnel testing, and...have you seen the Parlee they brought to EuroBike?

Considering that wheel manufacturers will no longer have to consider a braking surface...I don't see things going back.

But, like I said...5 years, zombie thread!
5-8 years. Then you will have to change your sig line to acknowledge my prescience.
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Old 09-16-16, 11:36 AM
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5-8 years. Then you will have to change your sig line to acknowledge my prescience.
It's a deal.
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Old 09-16-16, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs View Post
Just an FYI...sometimes Ice Tech rotors will not clear a caliper that isn't Shimano cleanly...those radiator fins on the inside section of the disc rubs up (slightly) against BB7 calipers for instance- I learned this the hard way.
Thank you for bringing this up! I'll do some searching and see what I can find about the Spyres and their clearance or lack thereof.
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Rim brakes have the ability to lock the wheels, the limit of adhesion. That is all that's needed. You're not going to get anymore from disks. Rim brakes are beautiful pieces of engineering and hardware. Industry just wants to churn out cheap to make for the masses.
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Old 09-19-16, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Thank you for bringing this up! I'll do some searching and see what I can find about the Spyres and their clearance or lack thereof.
For anyone interested, the IceTech rotors appear to be a common upgrade to pair with the Spyre calipers. I'm going to give it a shot and hope that the new flat mount caliper has similar clearance.
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Old 09-19-16, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hogger453 View Post
Rim brakes have the ability to lock the wheels, the limit of adhesion. That is all that's needed. You're not going to get anymore from disks. Rim brakes are beautiful pieces of engineering and hardware. Industry just wants to churn out cheap to make for the masses.
Wrong thread.
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Wrong thread.
I didn't start the debate.
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Originally Posted by hogger453 View Post
Rim brakes have the ability to lock the wheels, the limit of adhesion.
WTF does that have to do with the wheels I'm asking about? Take it somewhere else.
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Old 09-19-16, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
WTF does that have to do with the wheels I'm asking about? Take it somewhere else.
I posted a video for you.
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Originally Posted by cpstwoart View Post
ENVE hubs are garbage. Get the rims. They are super sweet. Then put Chris Kings in them or Industry Nines. Or if you can afford ENVE rims, you can probably afford Tune hubs, and those are super buttery.
Tell us why the Enve hubs are so bad and what "buttery" means.
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq View Post
Tell us why the Enve hubs are so bad and what "buttery" means.
99% Sure he has no idea what hubs typically come on ENVEs...

Originally Posted by cpstwoart View Post
Consider Hope hubs. They are still really good, and better than the Mavic ones on ENVE wheels. The are bomb proof, easy to repair if you ever do manage to mess them up, and they are significantly cheaper than DT 240 hubs.
I've never seen a prebuilt ENVE wheelset with mavic hubs, ever.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I need to choose rotors and tires. And where to buy them. They shouldn't need a lot of maintenance, right?
I just got a set of ENVE 4.5AR Disc wheels with powertap hub in rear (from Wheelbuilder), and in talking with ENVE they suggested the Schwalbe Pro One 28mm (inflates to about 31mm on the wheel). I got those and really like them so far. Rides great on the road and good on gravel and dirt roads too. I'm inflating 55psi with Orange Seal sealant inside.
FYI, I am 140lbs, so can't comment on heavier rider usage.
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I was like, you're only inflating to 55psi!?!?!

But I guess at 140lbs, you have the luxury to do that, haha.
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Have any one try the enve 4.5 disc wheel for cyclocross?
Or can they be use for cyclocross ?
I have being searching for this answer an no luck , I will highly appreciate comment.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq View Post
Tell us why the Enve hubs are so bad and what "buttery" means.
I took "buttery" to mean that they melt at slightly above room temperature -- and they taste good on waffles!
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Old 11-26-16, 03:42 PM
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FYI. Free road bar with a wheelset this weekend.
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Old 11-29-16, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Elias1098r View Post
Have any one try the enve 4.5 disc wheel for cyclocross?
Or can they be use for cyclocross ?
I have being searching for this answer an no luck , I will highly appreciate comment.
Thanks
I would also like to know how well these new rims perform with tubeless cyclocross tires, specifically how burp resistant are they at cyclocross racing tire pressures? If anyone has experience using the SES 4.5 AR disc rims for this purpose I am very interested.

If so;
What is your riding weight?
What tires did you use?
What air pressure did you run?
How easily did they inflate tubeless, was a floor pump good enough?
Did they lock in the bead fairly tight or can they be easily pushed into the center channel when deflated?
What tape and how many layers comes installed on these rims?

Thanks!
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