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Old 11-08-16, 09:34 AM
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Ive just found out how weak I really was! I just cant put put out the power of some of those guys. Well, I can, just not for long. Gives me something to work on I guess.
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Ive just found out how weak I really was! I just cant put put out the power of some of those guys. Well, I can, just not for long. Gives me something to work on I guess.

Yes, there are some very fast riders on Zwift. Best way to get fast is ride with people faster than you. I find that group rides or races make time go by faster and help motivate. I've been doing the daily dZi SUB 3 ride lately. 5:30pm if you are in eastern time. It is really more like a 3-3.5 ride, which is perfect for me. Challenging, but I am able to keep up.
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Im really liking it. I use to hop on the trainer and die within 30 minutes of boredom. Still using the dumb trainer but the new one is in the works. Still trying to learn all the ins and outs tho. So far, all Ive done is just logged miles, not entered a race. I just need miles. Today the sun was behind the trees on my way home from the office. by 5:40, it was dark. I hate that.
Same. Zwift is a godsend to avoid dealing with traffic in the dark and cold.

Don't get discouraged by ZwiftBros riding around at 4.5W/Kg for hour after hour. There are a bunch of fast people, sure, but also a lot of people with inaccurate data that allows them to "cheat" with inaccurate power and weight. Fortunately there are plenty more people who are really just using it for a good workout, and almost every ride you'll end up latching on with one or more other riders doing about the same pace as you, which makes the experience more engaging.
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Originally Posted by eric1971 View Post
Yes, there are some very fast riders on Zwift. Best way to get fast is ride with people faster than you. I find that group rides or races make time go by faster and help motivate. I've been doing the daily dZi SUB 3 ride lately. 5:30pm if you are in eastern time. It is really more like a 3-3.5 ride, which is perfect for me. Challenging, but I am able to keep up.
Gonna do the Sub2 tonight at 8 lol. Ill work up to the 3's!
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I set up Zwift over the weekend. I don't think I chose the right trainer though since the speed numbers seemed WAAAAY off compared to real world. I'm using a used Blackburn, but don't know the exact model. Switched the option to the Mag 3 and I'm going to try it again later this week.
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Yeah, the dumb trainer presets seem to be a little off, so I had to keep testing different trainer profiles until I found one that seems to correlate pretty well between my effort outside and my speed in the game.
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Yeah, the dumb trainer presets seem to be a little off, so I had to keep testing different trainer profiles until I found one that seems to correlate pretty well between my effort outside and my speed in the game.
So it's not just me. Granted I don't know if my trainer is actually listed. I started going and I was cruising at the effort that would normally net me 17-21 MPH on flats and it had me at 6-11 MPH.
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That does sound off, check to see if your trainer is listed.

For me, riding in low Zone 2 which would have me going 16mph or so outside gets me to 22mph on Zwift. I like it.
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That does sound off, check to see if your trainer is listed.

For me, riding in low Zone 2 which would have me going 16mph or so outside gets me to 22mph on Zwift. I like it.
Like I said I don't actually know the model of my trainer since I bought it used. It's a Blackburn and it says tracstand on it so initially I went with the tracstand ultra. I'm going to try the Mag 3 now since it does have 3 settings and when I chose that option it did tell me to put it in the 2nd setting (previous option didn't make mention of this) so this may be the correct route to take.
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Sounds like a good plan.

Or just look for the setting that makes you the fastest, join some races, and watch everyone with their fancy Neos (with the trainer difficulty set at zero, what's the point?) seethe.
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Sounds like a good plan.

Or just look for the setting that makes you the fastest, join some races, and watch everyone with their fancy Neos (with the trainer difficulty set at zero, what's the point?) seethe.
That sounds about as fun as Diablo 1 after learning the hacks.

I was looking at an online watt/speed calculator and the 170 watts Zwift wanted me at would put me around 18 MPH at my weight. That would be a comfortable cruising speed, but I was struggling to maintain it yesterday. Granted I had just run 5 miles and my legs were pretty toasty.
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I've been meaning to borrow my friend's PT wheel to see how close the estimated power is, because I'm sure it's still a little high, even after trying a bunch of different presets. If I'm riding in the 150-160 bpm range, in the game it puts me at maybe 23-24 mph while outside that would be more like 21-22 on the flats. It's close, but definitely not 100% accurate.
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I've been meaning to borrow my friend's PT wheel to see how close the estimated power is, because I'm sure it's still a little high, even after trying a bunch of different presets. If I'm riding in the 150-160 bpm range, in the game it puts me at maybe 23-24 mph while outside that would be more like 21-22 on the flats. It's close, but definitely not 100% accurate.
That would be close enough for me. Still better than 'perceived effort' I've been using on Sufferfest videos.
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I'm a big fan of Zwift after six weeks using a Wahoo Kickr. Inputting the correct weight and height has me going about 2 kph faster in the game compared to real life, part of that would be the Zipp 808's and Aero bike in the game. There is also no wind so you will be faster in the game on a loop route. There are some people who intentionally put in lower numbers to game the system, but enough honest people sign up for the organized events on Zwiftpower to have a good bunch race. I race in the D category and still see some realistic numbers, there's really no point in cheating to win the the D category.

GCN has done some good videos of them racing seriously on Zwift, ex pros Si and Dan put up some huge wattage and their speeds are realistic. Remember too at this stage of the game development there are really only serious cyclists as subscribers who are training properly, so you have a bunch of very fit people on average. Some of the pros (E. Boassen Hagen, A. Greipel) are now showing up in the off season, or at least persons who took their name.
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I have a friend who started using Zwift. One of the outcomes is that he rides less on the road.
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I'm a big fan of Zwift after six weeks using a Wahoo Kickr. Inputting the correct weight and height has me going about 2 kph faster in the game compared to real life, part of that would be the Zipp 808's and Aero bike in the game. There is also no wind so you will be faster in the game on a loop route. There are some people who intentionally put in lower numbers to game the system, but enough honest people sign up for the organized events on Zwiftpower to have a good bunch race. I race in the D category and still see some realistic numbers, there's really no point in cheating to win the the D category.
I don't get why people would cheat on games (specific multiplayer games). I'm surprised that they would do that on Zwift.


Is Wahoo Kickr worth to buy? I'm currently have dummy trainer with Wahoo sensors and I'm looking into Kickr for more pedaling varies such as climbing, etc... My trainer is just same level and it's bit boring.
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I was at the bike shop the other day telling the owner I was interested in the $1400 TT bike, but I have to talk my wife into it first. A little later we were talking about Zwift and he showed me the $1200 trainer that works great with it. I had to remind him that I'm still working on talking the wife into the bike so a smart trainer isn't even on the radar yet.
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Is Wahoo Kickr worth to buy? I'm currently have dummy trainer with Wahoo sensors and I'm looking into Kickr for more pedaling varies such as climbing, etc... My trainer is just same level and it's bit boring.
The smart trainers add a whole lot of realism to the game, plus they also allow you to have computer control of the wattage for doing workouts. The Kickr is my first power reading device and that alone is significant in improving my fitness. Though I haven't done many structured interval sessions, I can see that if you really want to improve that would be the way to go. Search for reviews of the smart trainers, there are many sites that talk about the features and how the trainer reacts to the various apps. I spend 90% of the trainer time in Zwift, and half of that in races or group rides. If you don't like the full realism of climbing a 25% hill on the trainer, most of the apps allow you to scale back the resistance. You still have to put out the watts but it is easier on the knees.
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
I have a friend who started using Zwift. One of the outcomes is that he rides less on the road.
at least there no worries about the "cagers" using zwift. lol
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and ps, you can tell when something has caught on like zwift. Ive already purchased a smart trainer but I had 2 or 3 on my ebay watchlist and they didnt last 24 hours.
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I've been meaning to borrow my friend's PT wheel to see how close the estimated power is, because I'm sure it's still a little high, even after trying a bunch of different presets. If I'm riding in the 150-160 bpm range, in the game it puts me at maybe 23-24 mph while outside that would be more like 21-22 on the flats. It's close, but definitely not 100% accurate.
What trainer are you using?
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I went to a Wahoo / Endurance House event last night where we did 90 second warmups followed by a 30 second attempt to put out the highest watt/kg average using the Wahoo Kickr in conjunction with Zwift. It was pretty fun, but a pro rider was there and took the major prize.

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What trainer are you using?
I have a TravelTrac Fluid Comp, which is on Zwift's "approved" list. I'd estimate their preset for this trainer was giving me 100+ watts more than I should have been putting out for a given effort.

I can't recall which preset I'm using instead, I think it's one of the Elite trainers. I've seen other posts indicating that the Nashbar Fluid preset is a good substitute for my trainer, but now that I've found one I've been using consistently, there's no point in changing. Getting your absolute numbers in the right ballpark is important so you can ride around with everyone else and not be a "flyer" stealing all the KOMs or a 10mph turtle, but from there the important thing is making sure your relative numbers from one session to another are consistent even if they're not 100% accurate in the real world, so that you can track your progress and do structured work.
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I have a TravelTrac Fluid Comp, which is on Zwift's "approved" list. I'd estimate their preset for this trainer was giving me 100+ watts more than I should have been putting out for a given effort.

I can't recall which preset I'm using instead, I think it's one of the Elite trainers. I've seen other posts indicating that the Nashbar Fluid preset is a good substitute for my trainer, but now that I've found one I've been using consistently, there's no point in changing. Getting your absolute numbers in the right ballpark is important so you can ride around with everyone else and not be a "flyer" stealing all the KOMs or a 10mph turtle, but from there the important thing is making sure your relative numbers from one session to another are consistent even if they're not 100% accurate in the real world, so that you can track your progress and do structured work.
I'm using a Kurt Rock and roll.


I'm not sure of my real world power numbers, so I am just going with what Zwift says my power is based on my trainer's power curve. I've read that it is accurate, but I have my doubts.


I may get Santa to bring me a power meter. Not because I really need one, but because of my curiosity of my actual power numbers. As you know, I'm pretty casual about my "training" but measuring improvements with a real number instead of speed would be pretty cool.


I figure my trainer cost, plus a meter I can keep using outside is still less than a "super trainer" so that's my "justification"
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I may get Santa to bring me a power meter. Not because I really need one, but because of my curiosity of my actual power numbers. As you know, I'm pretty casual about my "training" but measuring improvements with a real number instead of speed would be pretty cool.
Lol, you and your training science. I can't justify a PM purchase but I'm also curious to see where I am in the real world, not just imaginary zPower, so at some point I'll borrow my friend's PT rear wheel which my bike computer can read numbers off of. I'll probably write down what my actual power is at different zPowers so I can know for future reference where I am.
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