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Felt F1 Frame with no fork - can I use aftermarket?

Old 11-03-16, 11:05 AM
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Felt F1 Frame with no fork - can I use aftermarket?

Hi BikeForums! First post here, but probably not my last.

I recently got a great deal on a 2015 Felt F1 frame as the start for my first full road bike build. I have a few single speeds that I am very comfortable working on, but nothing carbon, and nothing as fancy as this F1. The frame didn't come with a fork (wish I knew why), but other than that is in great shape.

I'm here because I'm getting a lot of mixed messages on what for will work with the frame. The Felt fork has a bunch of integrated stuff... to quote their specs, "Felt Race Road UHC Ultimate + TeXtreme carbon fiber monocoque construction, ControlTaper 1.125" - 1.5" carbon fiber steer tube w/ integrated compression device & crown race, crown, blades & dropouts"

Now:

1. Felt doesn't sell their forks, and if they did, the fork would be 3-4x the price I paid for the frame, so that seems like a less than ideal option.
2. The integrated crown race has me nervous. Can I replace that fork with an aftermarket 1.125-1.5" fork and a non-integrated crown race? Some people have told me no, others yes - so now I turn to the internet, where everything you hear is true.
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The only likely thing that's special about the fork is that it probably matches the frame better than an aftermarket one. Don't be put off by the marketspeak of Felt's description, an aftermarket fork will work fine, as long as it's the correct dimensions (rake and tapered steerer tube).

Does the frame have the headset installed?

FYI I don't think there's anything magical about an "integrated crown race", but you will need to install a crown race that matches the headset.
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Thanks for the reply! The frame is pretty stripped down - the head tube is empty. Basically anything that isn't fixed to the frame is gone

It's going to be a project!
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Integrated crown race or not is no problem. Just install a race on the new fork that doesn't have an integrated one. It comes along with a full headset. Done.

Clearly the frame was wrecked and the fork destroyed. I wouldn't have touched it. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Clearly the frame was wrecked and the fork destroyed. I wouldn't have touched it. Sorry.
The guy I bought it from was pretty definite on the frame having never crashed. It looks well used, but there isn't a single blemish on it I can find other than the usual wear spots. I choose to eternally have the glass half full, and I'll believe that the fork was damaged in a freak accident, leaving the frame unscathed.

Either way it's all a learning experience - started from the bottom now i'm here.
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Originally Posted by benshares View Post
The guy I bought it from was pretty definite on the frame having never crashed. It looks well used, but there isn't a single blemish on it I can find other than the usual wear spots. I choose to eternally have the glass half full, and I'll believe that the fork was damaged in a freak accident, leaving the frame unscathed.

Either way it's all a learning experience - started from the bottom now i'm here.
My reply was presumptuous. Sorry.
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Get an Enve road 2.0, looks great on everything.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
My reply was presumptuous. Sorry.
Just had to check your location to make sure it wasn't Canada with all those apologies!

No worries friend, I appreciate the advice.
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Originally Posted by Bikeracer123 View Post
Get an Enve road 2.0, looks great on everything.

this.
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Originally Posted by motorthings View Post
this.
Looking good on everything doesn't come cheap though!
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3T might be another option but not cheap either. I may be wrong but in 2011 they used 3T on the fork recall.
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FELT Full Carbon Road Bike Fixed Gear Threadless 700c Fork 1 1/8" | eBay

Felt F75 Carbon Fiber FORK, 700c, tapered 1 1/8" - 1.5", 9" long steerer | eBay

New Felt Devox Carbon Road Fork 43mm Rake 1 1/8" | eBay

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Best fork value is Ritchey Pro. I don't know if tapered versions are readily available.
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Unless you can find a new/good condition fork off the same bike, you need to also know the:-
1. rake/offset
2. axle to crown length
3. fork crown diameter (you really want to make sure this is the same as the lower headtube diameter, otherwise the bike will look daft).
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A quick search located this info for 2015; Felt is also releasing an F1 PR for the first time. It’s a bike created for its pro teams to race at Roubaix and is essentially an F1 with clearance for bigger tires through a lengthened rear, taller fork, and long-reach calipers. The result is the F series’ power-to-weight with a bit more stability and clearance for 32-mm tires. Because of UCI rules, the bike has to be available to the public, but this F1-PR will be offered in limited quantities.

Beware, the chances of having one are slim but possible.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Best fork value is Ritchey Pro. I don't know if tapered versions are readily available.
I agree, it's a nice fork (I own one), but it's not available in a tapered version, in fact it seems to have dissappeared from Ritchey's website, so I wonder if they're revamping their forks soon.

However, there are adapters that allow for non-tapered forks to be used with tapered headsets, so if the OP can find a good deal on a non-tapered fork, that's still an option.
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This fork is for fixed gear use only, says it right in the listing title! Put some derailleurs on the bike it's fitted to and it will asplode.
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2/3 of those are not tapered - finding those tapered stems is possible but definitely reduces options. I've got my eye on a bunch of ebay auctions - thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by 02Giant View Post
A quick search located this info for 2015; Felt is also releasing an F1 PR for the first time. It’s a bike created for its pro teams to race at Roubaix and is essentially an F1 with clearance for bigger tires through a lengthened rear, taller fork, and long-reach calipers. The result is the F series’ power-to-weight with a bit more stability and clearance for 32-mm tires. Because of UCI rules, the bike has to be available to the public, but this F1-PR will be offered in limited quantities.

Beware, the chances of having one are slim but possible.
Luckily the PR has a distinctive blue highlight on the frame in a few places... that would have been a whole other added headache - although pretty cool if I had ended up with one.
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there are adapters that allow for non-tapered forks to be used with tapered headsets, so if the OP can find a good deal on a non-tapered fork, that's still an option.
I had no idea! This definitely opens up the world a bit. I ended up with a much nicer frame than I intended for my first build, was concerned that I was going to have to spend many times the frame for components to fit it! Don't mind if it looks a little janky, so long as it rides.
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Originally Posted by benshares View Post
Looking good on everything doesn't come cheap though!
Go on Alibaba and look for Workswell or Hongfu branded equipment. Both seem to churn out consistently good products at very low prices, especially if your baseline is Enve. Workswell makes a WRC-D001N56 fork which appears as if it will do the job for your frame.
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Go on Alibaba and look for Workswell or Hongfu branded equipment. Both seem to churn out consistently good products at very low prices, especially if your baseline is Enve. Workswell makes a WRC-D001N56 fork which appears as if it will do the job for your frame.
Interesting - I've heard mixed things about chinese carbon in other places - are they fairly well regarded here?
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I had no idea! This definitely opens up the world a bit. I ended up with a much nicer frame than I intended for my first build, was concerned that I was going to have to spend many times the frame for components to fit it! Don't mind if it looks a little janky, so long as it rides.
They're headset dependent FYI. Here's one for FSA headset:

FSA Integrated Crown Race Reducer > Components > Headsets > Crown Races | Jenson USA

EDIT: Yes, I know it's not in stock, I just posted that for educational purposes.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
They're headset dependent FYI.
As I don't have a headset...this is good to know! Thanks.
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Interesting - I've heard mixed things about chinese carbon in other places - are they fairly well regarded here?
Hongfu, Dengfu, and Workswell are among the companies that are very well regarded here. Workswell is the cheapest with no apparent sacrifice of quality and performance.

I hadn't thought of it, but a 1 1/8-1 1/2 tapered fork from one of their framesets would be a great idea. Priced right, well made, plain black. What's not to like. As long as the rake is right.

They do sell components separately like seat posts and forks so you should have no trouble getting what you need. If Workswell wanted more than $125 for a fork, I would be surprised. Unfortunately Workswells favorite racing frame, the 066, comes with a 1 3/8 steerer bottom diameter. Otherwise I could recommend it to you very highly. You will have to do a little digging.
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