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Old 12-22-16, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 905
Enigma, near the bottom bracket. Pictures at the link in the OP. Speaking of which, pity your pics have gone missing, at least for me – ti is easy on the eye.
Not a good spot because of a lot of stress there--good luck!
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Ti is notoriously difficult to weld. That's why all the failures are at the welds. Aluminum is more difficult to weld than steel is Ti is much more difficult to weld than Al. Ti is very sensitive to contamination and you need a very well purged environment. For critical applications, they have weld chambers to ensure than the entire part is in an oxygen-free environment.
I doubt most, if any, bicycle manufacturer uses a full-on purge chamber to weld up the bikes. These are very expensive, make torch control more difficult, and are usually too small to fit a whole bicycle frame.

Which is why I would want to verify with a small custom builder what their TIG/shielding gas setup and prep/cleaning regimen is before buying a frame from them.
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Had a Lemond Victorie that was a warranty replacement for a Klein (whose seat post integrated collar cracked). I paid Trek $800

Paint was flaking off inside a year. Trek warrantied and re-painted. That paint was flaking off inside a year and they declined a warranty.

I subsequently had it repainted locally and rode for maybe 2 years, then a 1/2" long vertical crack developed on the downtube, just above the shifter cable stop. Because I had repainted the frame Trek declined a warranty.

Needless to say I will never buy a Trek.
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