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Leaning towards a Lemond Zurich...what else should I consider?

Old 05-25-05, 07:12 PM
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Leaning towards a Lemond Zurich...what else should I consider?

hi there-

i'm looking for a comfortable but well-performing road bike to use for recreational use (no racing). i'm probably more likely to do longer rides than i am to do fast rides.

i've tried several and the ones that felt the best are the specialized roubaix comp and the lemond zurich.
i'm leaning away from the roubaix and towards the zurich because of the roubaix's component set (older ultegra 9 vs. zurich's ultegra 10 and krysium equipe wheelset vs. zurich's bontrager race lite). also, the zurich just felt a bit better.

but i'm wondering if there's another bike i should be considering and that might be "more perfect." i kind of wish the zurich had a compact double crank, but i understand that's because shimano doesn't offer that yet. and since i'm not wedded to any particular brand, i'm also wondering if there's another bike that would offer similar (or better) ride quality / performance balance at a better value.

thanks,
tom
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greg lemond is an ass, buy a scott CR1
 
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Originally Posted by 53-11's_Mom
greg lemond is an ass, buy a scott CR1
That's very helpful and not everyone thinks that. Lot's of good bikes out there and I'm sure some helpful posts will come along.
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It doesn't get much better than the Zurich. Awesome frame, awesome wheels, awesome group set, awesome paint!
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I rode a zurich for 3 years (hince the name) and it was a great ride...solid bike.
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Old 05-25-05, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 53-11's_Mom
greg lemond is an ass, buy a scott CR1
Yeah, real helpful AND intelligent...especially because the Scott gets written up as a comfortable recreational bike.

On the actual level- Those were the two bikes I was torn between a year ago. I went with the Zurich and couldn't be happier.

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That bike is pretty nice to say the least... The one bike that comes to mind as comparable would be the Specialized Roubaix Elite ($2000, 105/Ultegra mix) and the Comp ($3000, Ultegra/DA mix). Might want to look at them as a comparison, but I don't see anything wrong with the Lemond that just jumps out and says "don't buy it"
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I would not buy based solely on components. All things equal, buy the bike with the better component blend, but first, buy fit. Spend as much time as you can on each bike and then ask yourself why am I leaning towards bike A over bikes B and C. And like others have said, cosmetics do come into play here. If they all feel the same and have the same basic components, then buy the one that looks the best. CNN just reported that athletes wearing red perform better, so buy the red one.
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Whats your size? THere's one on ebay now..

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I also rode the LeMond Zurich and the Specialized Roubaix before finally settling on a Trek Pilot 5.2. I think they are all very nice machines. - Jim
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I suggested the roubaix based on the raves I've read on here from various people. Seems to be a pretty well-liked bike and is apparently very very comfortable for those that aren't looking for a super-racey bike.
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I have a 1999 Zurich with over 20,000 miles on it and I love it. It has been a great bike for me. You won't be disappointed. I think the newer models are even nicer.
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by the way, forgot to mention that my lbs also carries giant and bianchi bikes. the ocr composite 2 seems interesting and i assume bianchi makes a bike comparable to the zurich. are either of these two a more compelling option...on paper at least (or based on others' experience)? i do, however, agree with the person who commented that feel is probably more important than components. thanks again,

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I had an '02 Zurich, it was very nice. I ended up selling it because it didn't fit me.

I think all of Lemond's designs are nice, the classic frames, the mixed material/carbon frames, and the aluminum. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.

The pre-'04 all-steel 853 frames are on eBay a lot, nice stuff.

good luck
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Bianchi has the Vigorelli, which is Reynolds 631 and Ultegra 10 triple. Someone here bought a vigorelli recently. Bianchi also has the Virata, which is Aluminum with a carbon fork and Ultegra group. I don't know that either of them are going to be as comfortable as the carbon/steel of the Lemond or full carbon on the Roubaix.
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Personally, if you're not going to race, then I don't think the extra cost for carbon cockpit is worth it. You can save about $400, I think, by going with an all-steel frame that feels just as good. I rode a LeMond Versailles yesterday and that was my impression.

I've had a Bianchi Vigorelli on my short list. Rode it for the 3rd time yesterday. Really wanted to buy it. Feels great. Looks great. Great equipment. This one even had an FSA carbon handlebar put on. But the 59 frame is a little too long a reach for me given an elbow problem, so I couldn't pull the trigger. I think it's a better value, mainly because you're not paying for the carbon.

I love the rides of the full carbon bikes (e.g. Roubaix) too. But there a comparably equipped bike is about $700-1000 more than the 631 steel bikes... speaking in very rough terms.

In other, smaller name brands you can probably find a similarly equipped, great feeling steel bike for a lot less. E.g. Jamis.
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The Lemond Zurich is a sweet bike and if you are thinking of the newer spline design wersus the all steel even better ride IMO. I raced my 03 steel Zurich for a year and loved it.
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I raced my 03 steel Zurich for a year and loved it.
According to your signature, until you cracked the Zurich's frame? Not exactly helping his confidence.
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Bianchi steel bikes are nice, also take a look at the Jamis Eclipse if there is a dealer near you. It comes with Kyserium elite wheels and Campy Centaur, which in my opinion is a lot nicer than Ultegra and I have ridden both groups. I almost bought an 03 Zurich (its was very nice), but I decided to go for a Carbon frame and wanted Campy instead of Ultegra, so I bought my XL carbon.

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For me, my '05 Specialized Roubaix is the perfect bicycle.
In this league, the LeMond, Felt, Bianchi, Trek, etc. are all good bikes.
The MAJOR determing factor should be the FIT !!! Find a trustworthy
fitter at a good LBS, and see which geometry and style will fit you the best !
Don't worry too much about the drivetrain and wheelset, but be more concerned
with fit, comfort, and proper riding posture. Good luck and Happy riding !!!
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I anm shopping as well. Check out the Felt f55(best bang for the buck) and the Orbea Mitis. The Lemond has the softest ride of everything I test rode so far. The orbea has a fantastic paint job. Yeah I know, bling aint important but for 2K I want something that looks nice also. I also has a full carbon rear end. The F55 is DA and a sweet ride as well. The Lemond is about $400 more in the N.O. area. If I hold out longer maybe I can swing it. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by kully
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. . . i kind of wish the zurich had a compact double crank, but i understand that's because shimano doesn't offer that yet. and since i'm not wedded to any particular brand, i'm also wondering if there's another bike that would offer similar (or better) ride quality / performance balance at a better value . . .tom
How about getting a triple crank. I had than on my '00 Lemond. You might want to consider the Bianchi but I am not sure it will be much cheaper.
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I saw a pro team riding Zurichs today at the Captech classic criterium in town. Here is a piture of a guy warming up on one.
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Yeah, I barely noticed the guy's bike... I was too busy checking out that chick in the background. Can't see what she's riding, though.
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I was looking at basicly the same bikes as have been suggested above. After test riding several I went with the Cannodale R700. It felt the best to me, best explination I can give is it just overall felt "quicker".
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