2017 carbon framesets around $1500-2000USD
02-04-17, 08:29 PM
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You will have to email them to get an order started. I paid $450 shipped and I couldn't be happier. It will come with a bottom bracket (I opted to NOT have it installed however), headset (used after market), rear hanger, seat post, and extra port plugs for either electronic or mechanical shifting. Mine is a 56cm and the frame weighed 849 grams. Pretty solid frame. Got over 2000 miles on it so far and counting.
I sent an email to them to get the ball rolling.
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02-04-17, 08:36 PM
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Yup so you can do elec or mechanical. FYI if you go this route the BB is actually BBRight so whatever you decide to do, just make sure it's BBRight. The frame is exactly like an R3.
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I'm extremely curious about this. I used to love unbranded steel hardtail frames from china when I was riding a lot of XC.
I googled "Workswell R-066" and got a lot of hits. Interesting.
But, as with all things from china... where is the best (safest) place to buy one? Is there a preferred online store here for these?
I googled "Workswell R-066" and got a lot of hits. Interesting.
But, as with all things from china... where is the best (safest) place to buy one? Is there a preferred online store here for these?
02-04-17, 09:24 PM
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Comes with a Shimano BB adapter so no worries about BBright. The supplied adapter is quite heavy so you may prefer to buy a lighter one from Wheels Manufacturing, Praxis, etc. I also opted for a Cane Creek headset and just threw the one they supplied into the spare parts bin.
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02-04-17, 09:27 PM
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Yes, don't have the BB adapter installed even if you want to use it. Having the BB shell empty makes it much easier to run the internal cables. All cable fittings and plugs for various holes in the frame are supplied.
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02-04-17, 11:01 PM
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@PepeM---I have seen Workswell videos of them bashing their frames with heavy pieces of metal ... but that could be faked.
Otherwise ... what is a frame supposed to do? Keep the proper relationship between headset, BB, and axles, I guess.
We cannot even decide if frame flex is a good or bad thing-- I can say, the WW-066 won't flex, whichever that means.
To me, a bad frame breaks. A heavy frame weighs a lot. An uncomfortable frame transmits every bump and lots of buzz.
The WW-066 is pretty light, stiff if that actually helps or not, fairly comfortable (really can't put fat tires on it, but I have 290 tpi Vittorios) and it has never folded up on me .... A lot of other posters here have the same frame and all praise it.
Based on all that ... yeah, it is a good frame.
Otherwise ... what is a frame supposed to do? Keep the proper relationship between headset, BB, and axles, I guess.
We cannot even decide if frame flex is a good or bad thing-- I can say, the WW-066 won't flex, whichever that means.
To me, a bad frame breaks. A heavy frame weighs a lot. An uncomfortable frame transmits every bump and lots of buzz.
The WW-066 is pretty light, stiff if that actually helps or not, fairly comfortable (really can't put fat tires on it, but I have 290 tpi Vittorios) and it has never folded up on me .... A lot of other posters here have the same frame and all praise it.
Based on all that ... yeah, it is a good frame.
02-05-17, 07:21 AM
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Unbranded Chinese carbon FTW. The Workswell R-066 is a favorite here. All black, $450 delivered to the USA, about 860 g for a 54 cm frame only, tons of extras included, essentially identical (on paper) to the Cervelo R3/R5*, great ride, excellent reviews, etc. What's not to like?
*No one here knows why the WW frame is so close to the Cervelo and even comes with some plastic parts engraved "Cervelo". Many theories, no real answers.
*No one here knows why the WW frame is so close to the Cervelo and even comes with some plastic parts engraved "Cervelo". Many theories, no real answers.
02-05-17, 07:46 AM
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02-05-17, 10:17 AM
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The R-066 is actually pretty aero by itself. I have 45/55 aero wheels on mine and am constantly able to coast past others who are pedaling to keep up. Remember that it's identical to a Cervelo R3 in terms of geometry, tube lengths, shape, etc.
02-05-17, 10:19 AM
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Comes with a Shimano BB adapter so no worries about BBright. The supplied adapter is quite heavy so you may prefer to buy a lighter one from Wheels Manufacturing, Praxis, etc. I also opted for a Cane Creek headset and just threw the one they supplied into the spare parts bin.
I also went with the Cane Creek headset. If I did it again though, I would have gone with the shorter top cap for less stack.
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Gonna second someone else's comment here. Fuji SL Elite frameset: $1750.
https://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/mProduct4_10551_10052_1217836_-1
https://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/mProduct4_10551_10052_1217836_-1
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Another vote for the Workswell 066. Great frame and I used a Wheels Manufacturing BB. I have about 500 miles on it, love it.
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A bit over your price range ($2700) but the Allied Alfa seems intriguing to me. Rim brakes and BSA BB.
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02-10-17, 01:45 AM
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I done my reading and I'm 95% leaning in the direction of the Workswellbikes WCB-R-066. I have three questions for existing owners of Workswell frames;
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
2). I'll be putting a Ultegra BB in. Is it really that bad for them to put the adaptor in for me? If read it is harder to thread the internal cables and that the factory one is heavy. I'd like the option of swapping out a lighter adaptor at some point. Is it just better for me to fit the BB adapter myself?
3). The rear deraileur hanger is the same a Cervelo? Meaning if I damage it somehow I should be able to get one at any Cervelo dealer? I am going to buy and extra from WW but I'm curious.
And one more onscreen I'm asking...
4). How is the seatpost? Any issues or is it something people swapped out?
Thanks again!
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
2). I'll be putting a Ultegra BB in. Is it really that bad for them to put the adaptor in for me? If read it is harder to thread the internal cables and that the factory one is heavy. I'd like the option of swapping out a lighter adaptor at some point. Is it just better for me to fit the BB adapter myself?
3). The rear deraileur hanger is the same a Cervelo? Meaning if I damage it somehow I should be able to get one at any Cervelo dealer? I am going to buy and extra from WW but I'm curious.
And one more onscreen I'm asking...
4). How is the seatpost? Any issues or is it something people swapped out?
Thanks again!
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02-10-17, 07:29 AM
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Will you consider used?
The price on the last generation Venge has plummeted. You could probably get an all black S-Works frame in your budget.
The price on the last generation Venge has plummeted. You could probably get an all black S-Works frame in your budget.
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I done my reading and I'm 95% leaning in the direction of the Workswellbikes WCB-R-066. I have three questions for existing owners of Workswell frames;
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
2). I'll be putting a Ultegra BB in. Is it really that bad for them to put the adaptor in for me? If read it is harder to thread the internal cables and that the factory one is heavy. I'd like the option of swapping out a lighter adaptor at some point. Is it just better for me to fit the BB adapter myself?[/quote] If you want to put the BB in you will need to make or buy a BB press ... it makes some hideous noises going in, but that is normal, consensus says.
3). The rear deraileur hanger is the same a Cervelo? Meaning if I damage it somehow I should be able to get one at any Cervelo dealer? I am going to buy and extra from WW but I'm curious.[/quote] I wouldn't count on it ... best bet is to buy one of each and compare. I bought two extra from WW just in case.
And one more onscreen I'm asking...
4). How is the seatpost? Any issues or is it something people swapped out?[/quote] No issues here. Light, not hard to adjust, hasn't snapped off yet .....
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I just picked up an new S-Works Tarmac frame for under $2K.
02-10-17, 11:04 AM
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I got a Super six Black inc frame for $600. You may be able to find a lightly used frame for your price range that would go for more new.
02-10-17, 06:49 PM
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I done my reading and I'm 95% leaning in the direction of the Workswellbikes WCB-R-066. I have three questions for existing owners of Workswell frames;
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
2). I'll be putting a Ultegra BB in. Is it really that bad for them to put the adaptor in for me? If read it is harder to thread the internal cables and that the factory one is heavy. I'd like the option of swapping out a lighter adaptor at some point. Is it just better for me to fit the BB adapter myself?
3). The rear deraileur hanger is the same a Cervelo? Meaning if I damage it somehow I should be able to get one at any Cervelo dealer? I am going to buy and extra from WW but I'm curious.
And one more onscreen I'm asking...
4). How is the seatpost? Any issues or is it something people swapped out?
Thanks again!
1). I'm ordering it as is, unpainted black, as that's a big part of the appeal (I loath frame "graphics"/paint). I will be able to ride the unpainted bike, for the life of the bike, with no issues? Anyone having any issues? Do I need to specify anything when I order about the frame finish?
2). I'll be putting a Ultegra BB in. Is it really that bad for them to put the adaptor in for me? If read it is harder to thread the internal cables and that the factory one is heavy. I'd like the option of swapping out a lighter adaptor at some point. Is it just better for me to fit the BB adapter myself?
3). The rear deraileur hanger is the same a Cervelo? Meaning if I damage it somehow I should be able to get one at any Cervelo dealer? I am going to buy and extra from WW but I'm curious.
And one more onscreen I'm asking...
4). How is the seatpost? Any issues or is it something people swapped out?
Thanks again!
I ordered the WCB-R-085 instead because it has standard BSA threaded with similar geometry and weight as the 66.
The seatpost is standard open design. I have used them in past, but I did wreck it because overtorqued. I recommend the ritchey 5nm torque wrench, solved those problems for me.
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