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Is it worth $30 to save 45g on pedals?

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Old 02-18-17, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
If you don't want to go for the XPEDO pedals, Wellgo also has some sub-300g pedals.

Wellgo W01 Titanium Spindle Axle Bike Clipless Pedal Cleat for Shimano SPD SH51 | eBay

Wellgo Road Bike Pedals Shimano SPD Compatible With Cleats

Their "road" pedal saves you an extra 50g or so over the M9000 pedals, and costs a lot less.
Thanks Clifford, those look like a great deal. I am leaning toward the Shimano XTR since I've found their pedals to be phenomenally reliable and they come in a version with a little extra platform.
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I find in general that I like the tension adjustment on the Wellgo pedals slightly better than on Shimano pedals.

I haven't tried either of those pedals above. I've been experimenting with single sided SPD pedals for a while. One gets used to them, but one does have to think about engaging. My first use of single sided was just before a very wicked hill-climb ride. Not the best time to be practising with new pedals.

I've got somewhere around 1000 miles on the XPEDO R-Force pedals, and the bearings still are tight enough that they aren't 100% predictable in positioning while the cranks are moving. Cold weather may also affect it.

I've re-greased Shimano bearings before. I really like the way the whole axle assembly pulls out for easy access. So far, I haven't had to do it with Wellgo pedals, nor have I pulled the XPEDO cartridges yet.
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Admit to not reading the entire thread, but I would say you'd be foolish not to get the upgraded pedals.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
I find in general that I like the tension adjustment on the Wellgo pedals slightly better than on Shimano pedals.

I haven't tried either of those pedals above. I've been experimenting with single sided SPD pedals for a while. One gets used to them, but one does have to think about engaging. My first use of single sided was just before a very wicked hill-climb ride. Not the best time to be practising with new pedals.

I've got somewhere around 1000 miles on the XPEDO R-Force pedals, and the bearings still are tight enough that they aren't 100% predictable in positioning while the cranks are moving. Cold weather may also affect it.

I've re-greased Shimano bearings before. I really like the way the whole axle assembly pulls out for easy access. So far, I haven't had to do it with Wellgo pedals, nor have I pulled the XPEDO cartridges yet.
Thanks for the feedback. The reason I'm switching pedals is to get away from single sided SPD. When I started out I got the A530's. They are 'supposed' to be weighted so the SPD side always is facing up but it's just never worked out that way and gets annoying having to fiddle with them riding away from stop lights. Maybe the Ultegra level A600's would have better bearings where this isn't an issue, but I'm ready to switch to normal double sided entry.
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If you're riding road, try SPD-SL.

They always end up right way up. Plenty of support. Probably lighter.
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Originally Posted by rollfast
drink one less 20 ounce bottle of pop and you save 45 grams as well.


(454-5 ml)
+99999999999999

There is still nothing that brings smile to my face than seeing a fat person riding a super light custom carbon bike. The irony of it, it may someday kill me, laughing too hard.
- Lucky for me, there is lots of it around here. Plenty of Parlee, Cervelo, Pinarello, Colnagos with HUGE fatties on 'em. It's tremendous! The best! We have the best fat people on the best bikes here.

I'm far more impressed by the some middle aged dude kicking my !@(*#U@ up the hill, than some silly Parlee custom race frame with 5 inches stack on it.

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Hmmm...
Not the weight thing again.

The reason why good bikes form 40 years ago or so averaged 25 lbs. And good bikes today weigh in at 11 lbs is careful consideration of every part.

Save a gram or two on 72 parts... and it adds up.. well, perhaps one an do with half as many spokes, and save even more. Then consider the weights of the derailleurs and shifters and cranks and everything else.

So, saving a few grams on pedals doesn't mean squat. But, cutting the weight of the bike in half does mean something, whether or not it is significant can be argued until one is blue in the face. But, I'd rather be 5 or 10 lbs overweight and have a 5 or 10 lb lighter bike than constantly worried about everything that goes into the mouth, and tightly muscle bond.
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Originally Posted by zymphad
There is still nothing that brings smile to my face than seeing a fat person riding a super light custom carbon bike. The irony of it, it may someday kill me, laughing too hard.
As a fat man on a CF bike, I wish your demise may come as soon as possible. I will ride past you q few more times if I can help your departure.

Pardon me, but where does it say that I have to meet some weight or fitness levels to want a nice bike? Where did you get the idea that only some people can buy some products? Where did you hear that people had to meet Your standards before they "deserved" a certain level of quality?

Do you think people should have to pass a competition driving course before buying a Porsche or Corvette?

Pardon me for taking you seriously, but you are kind of being an offensive a$$ so i thought I would join you.
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By the way, I have had good luck so far with Wellgo W-41 Pedals--245-255-grams/pair for about $25. I figure XTR would last a lot longer but at that price, I can buy three sets for every pair of XTRs.

You do have me thinking about picking up some XTRs before they all disappear though.
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Originally Posted by zymphad
+99999999999999

There is still nothing that brings smile to my face than seeing a fat person riding a super light custom carbon bike. The irony of it, it may someday kill me, laughing too hard.
- Lucky for me, there is lots of it around here. Plenty of Parlee, Cervelo, Pinarello, Colnagos with HUGE fatties on 'em. It's tremendous! The best! We have the best fat people on the best bikes here.

I'm far more impressed by the some middle aged dude kicking my !@(*#U@ up the hill, than some silly Parlee custom race frame with 5 inches stack on it.
If riding a nice bike motivates people to get out and ride, regardless of their weight, I'd rather encourage it.

No need to have an attitude.
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Originally Posted by zymphad
There is still nothing that brings smile to my face than seeing a fat person riding a super light custom carbon bike. The irony of it, it may someday kill me, laughing too hard.
Originally Posted by Maelochs
As a fat man on a CF bike, I wish your demise may come as soon as possible. I will ride past you a few more times if I can help your departure.
...
Pardon me for taking you seriously, but you are kind of being an offensive a$$ so i thought I would join you.
As a skinny guy on a fancy, light(ish) bike, both you guys crack me up!
But for all I know, both of you could ride circles around me, too.

Then again, maybe my bikes aren't so light, or even any good after all....
Originally Posted by CliffordK
Hmmm...
Not the weight thing again.

The reason why good bikes form 40 years ago or so averaged 25 lbs. And good bikes today weigh in at 11 lbs (?!) is careful consideration of every part.
...
Yes, again. To each is own, right?
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
As a fat man on a CF bike, I wish your demise may come as soon as possible. I will ride past you q few more times if I can help your departure.

Pardon me, but where does it say that I have to meet some weight or fitness levels to want a nice bike? .
https://media.specialized.com/suppor...0000057489.pdf

- page 6 of the Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual says you should weigh less than 240lbs if you're on VENGE-Schmenge.
~ I only picked this one because the discussion veered off pedals on to crabon fiber bikes. I
I'm surprised the limit is so high! I thought it would be much lower. I don't actually own a carbon fibre bike (full disclosure).

Cheers!

ps - yes, I do think Porsche drivers should take competitive drivers courses. Actually I believe the US standards for ANYONE to get a driver's license is way to easy.

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Originally Posted by mrv
https://media.specialized.com/suppor...0000057489.pdf

- page 6 of the Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual says you should way less than 240lbs if you're on VENGE-Schmenge.
Who says the Venge is a "nice bike"?

Originally Posted by mrv
ps - yes, I do think Porsche drivers should take competitive drivers courses. Actually I believe the US standards for ANYONE to get a driver's license is way to easy.
You wouldn't think so ... if you worked for an insurance company

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I am very concerned about performance. This resulted in spending an extra $900 for pedals that weigh 80g more.
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Eggbeaters #2- save an additional 25g for the same price.
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Originally Posted by ingo
I am very concerned about performance. This resulted in spending an extra $900 for pedals that weigh 80g more.
$900 to add 80g?

Are those the pedals with the little electric motors inside?
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Eggbeaters #2- save an additional 25g for the same price.
Eggbeaters?

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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Eggbeaters?

Four sided entry! Cool colors!

You want them to last too?
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Originally Posted by mrv
https://media.specialized.com/suppor...0000057489.pdf

- page 6 of the Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual says you should way less than 240lbs if you're on VENGE-Schmenge.
~ I only picked this one because the discussion veered off pedals on to crabon fiber bikes. I
I'm surprised the limit is so high! I thought it would be much lower. I don't actually own a carbon fibre bike (full disclosure).

Cheers!

ps - yes, I do think Porsche drivers should take competitive drivers courses. Actually I believe the US standards for ANYONE to get a driver's license is way to easy.
It is weigh not way Schmuck LOL
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Four sided entry! Cool colors!

You want them to last too?
we all need 4-sided entry
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
But what if you do both?

You won't belch and will be out $30.
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Originally Posted by GeneO
It is weigh not way Schmuck LOL
Maybe they meant I should weigh way less than 240? In that, i'd need to agree.
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Originally Posted by GeneO
It is weigh not way Schmuck LOL
oh dear. i've offended a Venge owner with my obscure Bike Snob NYC reference...
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Originally Posted by GeneO
It is weigh not way Schmuck LOL
You might want to fix your spelling error in post #19

if getting into all that.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
You might want to fix your spelling error in post #19

if getting into all that.
It was aa joke, but I am flattered you looked. I just had this strong urge to use the word schmuck.
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