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Being "duck footed" and using clipless pedals?
I've always walked with my toes pointed slightly out (opposite of pigeon toed) and I bought clipless pedals a year ago. Whenever I use them my ankles hurt - especially the right. Is it a good idea to keep my cleats aligned straight and build strength/flexibility to pedal that way or should I toe them out until it's comfortable? If i toe it out to a more comfortable position the crank arm rubs the inside edge of my shoe as I pedal. For reference I'm using spd pedals and cleats. I have not put significant mileage on my clipless pedals for this reason but maybe I just need to htfu?
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My advice is don't use a bicycle for orthopedic surgery. Pedal extenders so your feet don't hit the crank arms, and get a proper fitting.
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Yes, get pedal extenders if needed. Or just move the cleats as far to the inside of the sole as possible while still maintaining the necessary angle. That will move your foot the the outside away from the crank arm. It is okay if the cleats extend over the edge of the sole a little bit.
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Under no circumstances should you ride with your feet pointed in an abnormal position...for you.
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I developed knee pains keeping my right foot straight. A pro fitter advised me to point the feet where they want to point and I haven't had any problems since then.
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You need to move to Eugene. Lots of "Webfoots" around here :thumb:
I had the idea of pedals keeping the feet straight. And that may help some. However, different pedals have different amount of float. SPD cleats are rated for about 6° Float. I believe the Speedplay & Speedplay FROG pedals are rated for the most float (I think the Frog is higher than the standard Speedplay). Anyway, you might try the Speedplay pedals, and let your legs naturally choose their angle. As mentioned above, the pedal extenders might help with heal clearance. It wouldn't hurt to also talk to a podiatrist with an interest in Sports Medicine (and cycling). There is lots of good information on the internet, and it is good for food for thought. But for specific medical recommendations, it is worth about as much as it costs. |
Thanks for the advice everyone! I hadn't heard of pedal extenders before but I'll look into it. Do most LBS carry those or is it rare enough that I'll probably have to order online. Would rather buy local if possible.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 19389227)
You need to move to Eugene. Lots of "Webfoots" around here :thumb:
I had the idea of pedals keeping the feet straight. And that may help some. However, different pedals have different amount of float. SPD cleats are rated for about 6° Float. I believe the Speedplay & Speedplay FROG pedals are rated for the most float (I think the Frog is higher than the standard Speedplay). Anyway, you might try the Speedplay pedals, and let your legs naturally choose their angle. As mentioned above, the pedal extenders might help with heal clearance. It wouldn't hurt to also talk to a podiatrist with an interest in Sports Medicine (and cycling). There is lots of good information on the internet, and it is good for food for thought. But for specific medical recommendations, it is worth about as much as it costs. |
Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
(Post 19389300)
Thanks for the advice everyone! I hadn't heard of pedal extenders before but I'll look into it. Do most LBS carry those or is it rare enough that I'll probably have to order online. Would rather buy local if possible.
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
(Post 19389300)
Thanks for the advice everyone! I hadn't heard of pedal extenders before but I'll look into it. Do most LBS carry those or is it rare enough that I'll probably have to order online. Would rather buy local if possible.
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If your feet point out slightly, as you say, then extenders shouldn't be necessary. First just reset your cleats so they aren't forcing your feet straight. You may be surprised what a big difference a small adjustment can make.
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I use Kneesavers brand extenders. I toe-out and have big feet so it's the only way I can use clipless pedals. I have found SPD mtb pedals don't have as much adjustment or float as some other systems. Been using Look Delta pedals for decades. I put the cleat as far inside as it will go and twist it as far as it will twist.
Years ago before there were extenders I drilled my shoes to hang the cleat off the inside. At the time I was using Time pedals and they kept breaking. I had a guy make custom extenders for me and voila... |
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
(Post 19389176)
Under no circumstances should you ride with your feet pointed in an abnormal position...for you.
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Somewhere around 1967 I broke my right ankle running a QB sneak in college. It was never properly set. As a result my right foot point slightly out. I use Speedplay pedals and have had no issues.
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Originally Posted by jon c.
(Post 19389188)
I developed knee pains keeping my right foot straight. A pro fitter advised me to point the feet where they want to point and I haven't had any problems since then.
I went through a few different pairs of shoes and I'm still kind of tinkering around with it. Probably this and saddles as the most annoying parts of cycling for getting 'em dialed in and comfortable. |
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