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Repairing the bike on the cheap

Old 03-06-17, 12:21 AM
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Repairing the bike on the cheap

Oh I love being poor(ish) and married.

Early last month I got into an accident with a car, and this week I found how much money I was going to get from the insurance company. They gave enough to replace handlebars (big scratch), bar tape (cut), brifters (scratched and knocked off center), front wheel (knocked out of true), seatpost (scratch), and saddle (completely broken).

So today I went in and someone talked it over with the LBS (huge language barrier). I decided to keep handlebars, post, and just have my brifter alignment fixed. I did have to buy a cheap seatpost though, because one of the bolts was lost in the accident and the LBS guy couldn't find any (damn). I'm more disappointed about my wheel though. I choose to get an ultegra front wheel as a replacement, but to save money and argument (more important) I didn't get the set. So now I'll have to find some way to get a matching rear wheel.

Is changing a cassette hard? I have the tools, except for a torque wrench.

Anyway, just wanted to rant.
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I had never used a torque wrench on a bike until I got a CF frame, and I don't think you need one (though better if you have one, I suppose.)

Changing a cassette is about the easiest repair task I can think of ... much easier than changing a tire/tube.

Adjusting the brifter alignment takes a single hex wrench (8 mm i think) and is ridiculously easy. Wrapping tape is really easy.
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You need a cassette removal thingy. Plus a chainwhip to hold the cassette in place while you turn the lockring removal tool with a wrench.

Can be found cheap or expensive depending on which brand you chose.

I bought a cheap whip for about $10, works fine.

Some use an old piece of chain as a home made chain whip. I guess it's anything that holds the cassette still while you turn the removal tool.
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You could have also just went to a hardware store and bought a new bolt instead of a new seat post. Nothing special about those bolts. Once you have the tools (as pointed out above), changing a cassette is very easy.
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Hmmm... I have a chain whip and a removal tool. Just have to get my wife to let me but a rear wheel now, and that's the though part.

Really though, I mostly only commute, so it's not even like I have any need at all for nice wheels, I just like buying stuff for my bike, and get the upgrade bug, just like I do with computers.
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Just buy a used rear wheel. Around here 10-speed and lower stuff is easy to find. Newer 11-sp is not tough, but you'll pay a bit more for it.
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Originally Posted by San Pedro View Post
Hmmm... I have a chain whip and a removal tool. Just have to get my wife to let me but a rear wheel now, and that's the though part.

Really though, I mostly only commute, so it's not even like I have any need at all for nice wheels, I just like buying stuff for my bike, and get the upgrade bug, just like I do with computers.
Do you have any friends that cycle? I have given away wheels that I have built and put a few miles on. Usually to friends who ride along and have mechanical problems with wheels. I'd give them something just to save a few bucks, like wheels. Yeah, I can make them cheap at times after rebuilding with used hubs etc.

Or a friend can help you out with borrowing tools and/or free labor. Heck I have done many free mechanical repairs for people I know. Even some I didn't know on the roadside who were in a jam.

Of course, I don't loan out tools, I'd rather just do it myself to make sure I get my tools back.
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Old 03-06-17, 10:39 AM
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if there's nothing wrong with the rear wheel, why change it?
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Originally Posted by Xherion View Post
You could have also just went to a hardware store and bought a new bolt instead of a new seat post. Nothing special about those bolts. Once you have the tools (as pointed out above), changing a cassette is very easy.
True, except every now and then it is a 7 mm od bolt. Those are very hard to find. I have had to order them from an online supplier in Canada. But I would have surely looked for the bolt before buying a new post.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
if there's nothing wrong with the rear wheel, why change it?
Lol, because then I can say my bike is lighter. I did notice the wheel on my allez is rolling pretty terribly this morning, so an excuse would be to move the Giant rear wheel to my allez.

I'm not going to worry about the seapost too much, it's getting paid for, and I'm going to throw it in/on my allez. Maybe I can get it cut.
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Last time I was in accident, handlebar got slightly bent, not visible, but definitely could be felt by arms over time. Had to replace it.
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Old 03-13-17, 06:39 AM
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So I think I am going to get the rear tire too. I'm pretty sure my rear hub on my Allez is about to die, judging by the terrible noises coming from it.i thought it might have been the rubber piece by the hub, but I pulled it back on the ride home tonight, and the hub still sound like death. I also tried lube, but didn't seem to help. So looks like I'll be on the hybrid the rest of the week as I don't want to have a wheel seize up on me during a commute.
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So I think I am going to get the rear tire too. I'm pretty sure my rear hub on my Allez is about to die, judging by the terrible noises coming from it.i thought it might have been the rubber piece by the hub, but I pulled it back on the ride home tonight, and the hub still sound like death. I also tried lube, but didn't seem to help. So looks like I'll be on the hybrid the rest of the week as I don't want to have a wheel seize up on me during a commute.
When you tried lube, did you take all the balls out, both sides, and clean them and races and then pack with fresh grease? Or did you just put some grease on top? You can also buy just the balls, if the race isn't worn out - they're really cheap.

It's none of my business, but it sounds like you're spending quite a bit extra on repairs even though the budget is tight and it might cause arguments?
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When you tried lube, did you take all the balls out, both sides, and clean them and races and then pack with fresh grease? Or did you just put some grease on top? You can also buy just the balls, if the race isn't worn out - they're really cheap.
I only put the lube on top, in the dark, when I got home. I'm not sure how to take the bearings out and clean them, and am also wondering if I even have the time between six day work weeks lately and taking care of my family obligations.

If I can upgrade my wheel on my Giant I'll be happy about that, and then I can have a little bit better wheels on my Allez too. If the excuse to buy works with the wife then it's all good. I'm pretty sure she's not going to tell me to disassemble part of my bike wheel.
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I'm pretty sure she's not going to tell me to disassemble part of my bike wheel.
If she balks at the price of a new wheel, start taking the old one apart on the kitchen floor. Lay down newspapers, start unbolting stuff .... dirt and grease everywhere, slimy ball bearings rolling around, she has to step over you, you have to ask here to turn the lights and faucet on and off because you are elbow-deep in filthy grease .... She will Demand that you pack up all that stuff and buy new wheels....
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why did you buy a new front wheel?

Not a big deal to true an out of true wheel.

Even if the rim was damaged, you could have rebuilt the wheel with a new rim, at less cost, and still had a matching set of wheels.
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I only put the lube on top, in the dark, when I got home. I'm not sure how to take the bearings out and clean them, and am also wondering if I even have the time between six day work weeks lately and taking care of my family obligations.

If I can upgrade my wheel on my Giant I'll be happy about that, and then I can have a little bit better wheels on my Allez too. If the excuse to buy works with the wife then it's all good. I'm pretty sure she's not going to tell me to disassemble part of my bike wheel.
Whatever works, far be it from me to argue. I just wanted to point out in case you didn't realize, in view of the thread thesis "Repairing on the cheap", that there's a good chance that all your hub needs is a real re-lube, plus maybe 50 cents in bearings. Since you already have the tools anyway. Use a magnet to pull the balls out, wd40, mineral spirits, degreaser or whatever to clean them. It won't necessarily take longer than the time you'll spend shopping for a new wheel.
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I should clear this up. The bike was damaged in an accident, and the insurance company valued the damage at about $750 by pricing replacement at the LBS. My wife would like me to not spend some of that as her reward for doing all the paperwork and dealing with the insurance company (language barrier). I'd prefer to skip fixing some of things and put the money towards new wheels because I have wanted some nice wheels for a long time, and I like upgrading. I am planning on having the front wheel fixed, and then moving it to my Allez. I believe the PR-2 wheels to be a little nicer than Axis classic, and also they have 4000 or so less miles on them. Plus, if I get the Ultegra wheels I could possibly do tubeless tires at some point.

I would love to learn how to straighten a wheel, although I'm not sure if I have the patience. I am pretty sure that I could learn to clean out the hub on my Allez wheel, but it would be much nicer if I had a house and garage filled with tools, rather than a small apartment filled with 2 kids and all their stuff. If I move back to the states, I will definitely do most of my own work on my bike.

So, I'm cheap about fixing cosmetic stuff, and a lot of other stuff (saddle), but maybe not so cheap about the toys I want.

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If she balks at the price of a new wheel, start taking the old one apart on the kitchen floor. Lay down newspapers, start unbolting stuff .... dirt and grease everywhere, slimy ball bearings rolling around, she has to step over you, you have to ask here to turn the lights and faucet on and off because you are elbow-deep in filthy grease .... She will Demand that you pack up all that stuff and buy new wheels....
That is exactly how that would go! I can picture it so clearly. I once changed the tires in the kitchen (it was winter and too dark outside), and that is about how it went, without all the grease and bearings rolling around.
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Somehow I convinced the missus to order me a rear wheel. I'm looking forward to doing the work myself because we my wife told me I've been enjoying working on my bike recently. Even though I might not notice any difference, I'm still pretty excited as I've wanted to get some nice wheels (to me) for a while.
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ooh ahh, how's she roll?
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ooh ahh, how's she roll?
Great, the wheels spin very well. I like the handling with the lighter wheels as well, or at least the placebo. The hub has that sound I associate with new bikes when coasting too.

Installing the wheel and changing the cassette was both easy and a good learning experience. My used Pro4 this slipped right on. I had a little trouble with indexing the gears, it was my first time to try, but the bike is shifting better than it was before.
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