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Carbon wheel size for everyday riding?

Old 03-12-17, 07:06 PM
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Carbon wheel size for everyday riding?

I recently on a whim scooped up some no-name china carbon wheels, and they ride pretty good, except that they are 88mm and act like sail boats in the wind.

Really thinking of selling them for some smaller depth wheels.

Wondering what size would be good for everyday riding. Not really concerned with feather weight or all out aero, but just want something that won't get blown over while riding.

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Old 03-12-17, 07:07 PM
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Old 03-12-17, 07:09 PM
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If you're not concerned with weight or aero, why waste money? Get aluminum box section. They are comfortable as hell as an added bonus.
If you want carbon for the all black look, there's a few models out there that are black but not carbon all the way through. fulcrum, mavic and campy comes to mind.
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Old 03-12-17, 07:43 PM
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no, 88mm is great for everyday use. If you are riding time trials with little to no winds everyday.


I rode Zipp 303 tubular fairly regularly for a couple years, they are tough, behave well in winds, and aero enough at 45mm. If winds really bother you, get something around 30mm deep, and if clincher may as well get alloy since shallow carbon clinchers are not much lighter than alloy.
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The answer to the original question is <= 45mm.
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Zipp 303, great everyday wheel.
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Unless you live in an area with unusually calm winds, I would say 40mm or less is a good choice. I went deeper (48mm front / 56mm rear) and really wish I had gone with something in the 38 to 40mm range.

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Old 03-12-17, 08:52 PM
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like the others have said, 38mm (or thereabouts) works well.
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Rode 50mm's for years, had little to no problems, perfect comprismise imho
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Chinese carbon, go towards the narrower side.
Part of the reason Zipp and ENVE are a fortune is that they optimize for crosswinds. That means either a ton of modelling or wind tunnel time and cost. So a 60mm Zipp may handle equal or better than a 50mm generic.
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Love my 38"s!!!
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I have Boyd 44mm and they are great. Rode Simano RS81 C50 as well and they are fine, but they do catch the wind a bit. I was down to either the Boyd 60mm or the 44mm and 44 really was the right call for me. It can get pretty windy here in Ohio and group rides with a 60mm wheel can be downright dangerous, even with me weighing 240 pounds.
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I picked up some 88mm carbon wheels over the winter, but haven't had a chance to ride them yet. I'm a big dude, so I'm interested in seeing how much I get pushed around. If it's crazy, I'll probably unload them and pick up some something 40-50mm.
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I would venture to say it depends on local conditions. I have been on 58/50 for 4+ years no problem whatsoever. I'm < 140lbs but I don't ride in the rain, winds are generally light and I don't have any fast descents with braking. Your comfort zone may vary.
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About 40mm ish. I notice that I am much happier with Reynolds Assault/Strike combo (41/62) then Token C50 (50/50) when wind blows over. Could be shape of rim that matters too. While I am okay on flat with the side wind on either, I would much prefer something with less push on mountain descent (hence my order for Enve 3.4)
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Originally Posted by popeye View Post
I would venture to say it depends on local conditions. I have been on 58/50 for 4+ years no problem whatsoever. I'm < 140lbs but I don't ride in the rain, winds are generally light and I don't have any fast descents with braking. Your comfort zone may vary.
No doubt.
On the windiest days I've ridden, just 40mm was bigger than I'd have liked, and if I had to deal with wind very often, I'd stick to more conventional rims. However, it's not too often that winds are a problem, so I'm keeping the 40s for the aero bike. I get the feeling that if I had 80s, winds would be a problem more often.
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Just as an aside, I see some of the folks here talking about being ‘bigger’, is there a structural reason (beyond what seems obvious) for a bigger guy getting deeper rims?? All else equal of course, do deeper rims have more structural integrity than the shallow ones?? Just as an example, would a 38mm be as strong as a 60mm? it seems that there would be, but is it enough to change the number of spokes for instance. Would a set of 38mm wheels that are drilled 24/28 be comparable to a set of 60mm that are 20/24 (just an example of course).
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Love my 38"s!!!
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I'm 180 lbs. and ride 55's. Only gets a little interesting when the crosswind gets up in the neighborhood of 30-35 mph.
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Originally Posted by Dreww10 View Post
I'm 180 lbs. and ride 55's. Only gets a little interesting when the crosswind gets up in the neighborhood of 30-35 mph.
I think you forgot the decimal points.
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I've ridden my 50 mm set for over a year, put about 2000 miles on them and don't regret them a bit. Riding them in wind did take some getting used to but for the most part I've gotten used to it. I have thought about buying a second set in 24 mm to use in the windier parts of the year but in reality I was just trying to justify buying another set of wheels I have no real need for. If I were buying a replacement set of wheels choosing between 50 mm and 38 mm would be a tough decision. Truthfully, I doubt very seriously that I would be able to tell the difference in either how they handled in the wind or the 150 grams of weight difference between the two but I'm one to over think decisions.

I do like the wider rims. I bought 23 mm wide to use with 25 mm tires and really like that setup. Overall, knowing what I know it would be hard to not buy another set just like what I have if something happened causing me to have to buy replacements. If I was buying a second set, I'd buy 24 mm. That might very well mean that the 38 mm would be ideal everyday wheels.
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Originally Posted by dksix View Post
I've ridden my 50 mm set for over a year, put about 2000 miles on them.

If I were buying a replacement set of wheels choosing between 50 mm and 38 mm would be a tough decision. Truthfully, I doubt very seriously that I would be able to tell the difference in either how they handled in the wind or the 150 grams of weight difference between the two
2k miles, in over a year of use?

That is a very small sample size,.
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Originally Posted by jixr View Post
i recently on a whim scooped up some no-name china carbon wheels, and they ride pretty good, except that they are 88mm and act like sail boats in the wind.

Really thinking of selling them for some smaller depth wheels.

Wondering what size would be good for everyday riding. Not really concerned with feather weight or all out aero, but just want something that won't get blown over while riding.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
2k miles, in over a year of use?

That is a very small sample size,.
I bought them in December 2015 and I put about 2000 miles on my road bike last year.

How long should I have owned them or how far should I have ridden them before I decided I like them? How many years and how many thousands of miles does it take you to decide you like a set of wheels or other bike component?
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