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dean_550 05-30-05 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by classic1
Former pommy pro and frame builder Dave Lloyd started making (custom) compact bikes in the late 80's. They were the first modern ones I ever saw.

I suspect Mike Burrows flogged the idea off him or was in contact with him at the time. Burrows sold the unisex idea to Giant.

I aim to have everyone on this forum calling compact frames 'unisex' by the end of June. Please assist me in my quest.

I have to say, you were funny at first, but you seem awfully serious in your previous posts regarding this matter. I think it's quite strange that you're so caught up in hating these so-called "compact frames", and at the same time poking fun at Chinese people.

Oh well, I guess some people are amused by different things. Carry on.

classic1 05-30-05 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by dean_550
I have to say, you were funny at first, but you seem awfully serious in your previous posts regarding this matter. I think it's quite strange that you're so caught up in hating these so-called "compact frames", and at the same time poking fun at Chinese people.

Oh well, I guess some people are amused by different things. Carry on.

No, I poke fun at Imperialist oppressors of agarian proleterait, or something like that. I like unisex bike.

Medication must have kicked in on earlier post

classic1 05-30-05 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Trogon
All of the sloping top tube frames I own are too big for the average-sized female to ride - hence - no unisex. Sorry, but I can't help you in your quest.

What about heroic socialist People Republic women basket ball team. Standard unisex bike and Mao suit too small for them.

khuon 05-30-05 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by gattm99
Compact geometry comes from Mountain bikes. On a mountain bike its generally a positive thing to have as much standover as possible. Since mountain bikes were very cool in the 90s some guy said, "Hey lets make road bikes look more like mountainbikes, if we do this we can use less metal, make less sizes, and have stiffer and lighter bikes."

While originally, the compact geometry was created to increase standover in the presence of a higher BB, it wasn't until the mid-90s when MTBs started getting longer travel front suspension and even higher BB heights that sloping designs started becoming more and more extreme and necessary. Up until the early to mid-90s, there were still plenty of horizontal top-tube MTBs being made. Take a look at say a 1990 Trek 8000 for instance. BTW, sloping the top-tube isn't the only way to create a compact frame or to increase standover. :D

daver42 05-31-05 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by classic1
No, I poke fun at Imperialist oppressors of agarian proleterait, or something like that. I like unisex bike.

Medication must have kicked in on earlier post

No, what you're doing is perpetuating and encouraging age-old stereotypes. *Sigh*, one step forward, two steps back.

classic1 05-31-05 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by daver42
No, what you're doing is perpetuating and encouraging age-old stereotypes. *Sigh*, one step forward, two steps back.

I admit it. I'm not really a Chinese communist. I am actually a white anglo-saxon male :eek: Even worse, I'm Australian. The horror!

I also would like to take this opportunity to state that I will no longer make fun of Texans, Taiwanese Nationalists, Capitalists, Japanese cooking shows, Schezwan cooking, the English, short Italian pro cyclists, Italian cyclists who may or may not take drugs, the Chinese womens basket ball team, the politically correct, dwarves, or the Disney Company.

I fully admit that ths list may not be extensive enough and I would like to say to anyone else I may have inadvertantly offended that I'm truly sorry, except for proponents of unisex bikes, who can go and bite their bum. :D

woodboy 05-31-05 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by classic1
I admit it. I'm not really a Chinese communist. I am actually a white anglo-saxon male :eek: Even worse, I'm Australian. The horror!

I also would like to take this opportunity to state that I will no longer make fun of Texans, Taiwanese Nationalists, Capitalists, Japanese cooking shows, Schezwan cooking, the English, short Italian pro cyclists, Italian cyclists who may or may not take drugs, the Chinese womens basket ball team, the politically correct, dwarves, or the Disney Company.

I fully admit that ths list may not be extensive enough and I would like to say to anyone else I may have inadvertantly offended that I'm truly sorry, except for proponents of unisex bikes, who can go and bite their bum. :D

Please, keep making fun of Texans.

ed073 05-31-05 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by woodboy
Please, keep making fun of Texans.


And the weird Disney Company.

Al1943 05-31-05 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
And the weird Disney Company.

And don't forget the Jacko fans, they have feelings too.


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