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Velo Vol 04-18-17 08:05 PM

:love::bday:

LAJ 04-18-17 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 19520851)
I was there! I got video, but with the up pipe that Century Link gives us, it'll be tomorrow 'til that video uploads.

:thumb:!!

Heathpack 04-18-17 08:38 PM

The puppy's name is Phoenix.

The other dog, the first one I posted about is Annie. She's 8 years old and her owner died after breaking her neck in a car crash! :( She went back to her breeder to live but she needs a regular home. Grand champion. I know what a champion is but not really what the "grand" part signifies.

We're going to meet both dogs at a dog show a week from Sat.

Annie is pretty cute too...

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/x...BB39523385.jpg

Heathpack 04-18-17 08:42 PM

To remind y'all, this is doglet:

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/x...B016A49E60.jpg

There are rumors of yet another dog in need of a home- a 4 year old wirehair mini female. Her owner is traveling but is a friend of one of the people I contacted. Hopefully I'll get the scoop on that one next week.

jtaylor996 04-18-17 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19520389)
Hey, all you musicians and spouses thereof. I have a music theory question. I have played an instrument but never studied theory. Why is it called an octave if they're are only seven notes? I know that you make eight by repeating the next lower or higher of the first note in the scale, but what is that about? Why say there are eight notes if one is repeated?

A seven note interval is called... a seventh. A full octave is inclusive of the same note repeated "an octave above". When you practice scales, you always go to that 8th note. A lot of music and it's terminology is tradition based... that's just how they do it.

seedsbelize 04-18-17 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19520680)
So the BB on my Habanero (Ultegra 6700) has roughly 35 000 miles on it. It's is clicking just a little under load. I thought these things last forever. Not so?

I bought a used mtb, in which not only the bb, but also the headset and both wheel hubs were toast. The headset was actually dust. The cartridge bb came out in pieces.

Edit: I was after the rims, in truth, and those are both in good shape, and the hubs are re-buildable.

jtaylor996 04-18-17 08:57 PM

As a fiddle player, I was always butting heads when it came to traditional music instruction and theory.

Fiddle technique is a superset of violin technique, there is A LOT more to this instrument than tradition and notation can cover. There are modified scales, notes between the half steps that are very useful when you're doing certain melodic patterns, and even more out of the box stuff like disassembling the bow to play a quartet solo (put the stick under the body, with the hair going across all four strings at once).

You get a similar experience when you get a note for note transcription of Hendrix playing electric guitar. You need all kinds of goofy new notation for that (use thumb here... flip switch here... etc...).

When it comes down to it, music is art, as in an emotional communication language. Theory and notation are just an explanation and simulation of the real thing that happens when real musicians are connecting with an audience. You'll never get an accurate representation on paper of the best performances.

gnome 04-18-17 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19520940)
To remind y'all, this is doglet:

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/x...B016A49E60.jpg

There are rumors of yet another dog in need of a home- a 4 year old wirehair mini female. Her owner is traveling but is a friend of one of the people I contacted. Hopefully I'll get the scoop on that one next week.

cute rat. ;) the jersey is a bit naff though. Sounds like you are looking at getting a lot of half-dogs. Does crazy cat lady status also apply to the ownership of multiple half-dogs?

gnome 04-18-17 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 19520851)
I was there! I got video, but with the up pipe that Century Link gives us, it'll be tomorrow 'til that video uploads.

:thumb:

f4rrest 04-18-17 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 19520851)
I was there! I got video, but with the up pipe that Century Link gives us, it'll be tomorrow 'til that video uploads.

We're you on a "training" ride?


:trainwreck:

rpenmanparker 04-18-17 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19520736)
Next thing you will tell me I should replace the 19 year old clutch on the Saturn.

Only when it starts acting up. But BTW, what's a clutch?

Scarbo 04-18-17 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19520389)
Hey, all you musicians and spouses thereof. I have a music theory question. I have played an instrument but never studied theory. Why is it called an octave if they're are only seven notes? I know that you make eight by repeating the next lower or higher of the first note in the scale, but what is that about? Why say there are eight notes if one is repeated?


An octave is composed of eight notes. For example, if you played the notes on the piano extending from middle C to the C one octave above, that would comprise eight notes. That note, one octave above middle C, is not the same note merely repeated because of its frequency--middle C has a frequency of 261.626 Hz, while the C one octave above it has a frequency of 523.251 Hz. Modern concert pitch (the A above middle C) is set at 440 Hz. If you were to attend an orchestra concert, this is the pitch given by the 1st violinist, or Concert Master, so that the orchestra can tune to the same pitch.

Scarbo 04-18-17 09:33 PM

It's nice not to be talking about food for a change. ;-)

rpenmanparker 04-18-17 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Scarbo (Post 19521016)
An octave is composed of eight notes. For example, if you played the notes on the piano extending from middle C to the C one octave above, that would comprise eight notes. That note, one octave above middle C, is not the same note merely repeated because of its frequency--middle C has a frequency of 261.626 Hz, while the C one octave above it has a frequency of 523.251 Hz. Modern concert pitch (the A above middle C) is set at 440 Hz. If you were to attend an orchestra concert, this is the pitch given by the 1st violinist, or Concert Master, so that the orchestra can tune to the same pitch.

Your answer is repeating the question. I knew that. But I was asking why a set of 7 unique notes was called an octave. And to justify this, why one note was repeated. What I now understand is not the seven notes but rather that the octave comprises the entire range between the two Cs or whatever. There are seven notes in there but there are more tones that can be used. That between aspect is what I needed to understand how it works.

Scarbo 04-18-17 09:41 PM

Seven notes do not comprise an octave. Eight notes comprise an octave.

Velo Vol 04-18-17 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19520686)
She had that flat straight MUP course with no one on it. TT stylie. No need to cut it.

And again, for the record, I had to frequently slow to make the turns at the office park.


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19520777)
Tax time!

Finished 1/2 hour before the deadline. :bday:


Originally Posted by Scarbo (Post 19521016)
middle C has a frequency of 261.626 Hz, while the C one octave above it has a frequency of 523.251 Hz

Can you be more precise?

The Velo Vol band tunes to the first clarinet. For concerts, we all tune to the tuner.


Originally Posted by Scarbo (Post 19521031)
It's nice not to be talking about food for a change. ;-)

Says who?

Scarbo 04-18-17 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19521052)



Can you be more precise?



Says who?

To muddy the waters even further with regard to tunings, Historically Informed Performance practice of Baroque music specifies a value of A=415 Hz, meaning that A is relative. ;)

Velo Vol 04-18-17 09:49 PM

I wish I knew/remembered more music theory. It's been a long time since grade school.

Velo Vol 04-18-17 09:51 PM

When we go around the room individually tuning to the conductor's tuner, I sometimes try to guess if the tone is sharp or flat.

I'm not very good.

jtaylor996 04-18-17 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19521038)
Your answer is repeating the question. I knew that. But I was asking why a set of 7 unique notes was called an octave. And to justify this, why one note was repeated. What I now understand is not the seven notes but rather that the octave comprises the entire range between the two Cs or whatever. There are seven notes in there but there are more tones that can be used. That between aspect is what I needed to understand how it works.

Or you can think of it as 12 half steps to make an octave. That applies to guitar thinking, as each half step is one fret. Again, that 12th note is the same one you started on, just an octave above. The whole 8 note concept itself is just yet another tradition, some asian music doesn't do stuff like that. There may be more 'culture' in music that you are aware of.

It all gets vastly more complicated the further you divide things. Like why you can't ever get a damn G chord perfectly in tune on a guitar even after you calibrated the bridge properly and tuned the open strings with a strobe device. Even dividing an octave into 12 half steps has some trade offs (anyone else remember microtonal guitars?).

I'm telling you, the more you try to make sense of music in mathematical terms the more insanity is in your future.

Edit: microtonal:

jtaylor996 04-18-17 10:05 PM

This same guy has a good video explaining the mind **** that is trying to get a guitar with 12 frets to play properly in tune.

I have perfect relative pitch, this crap drives me nuts, like to the point of OCD. I tune all of my instruments out of tune just right to compensate.


Heathpack 04-18-17 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 19520991)
cute rat. ;) the jersey is a bit naff though. Sounds like you are looking at getting a lot of half-dogs. Does crazy cat lady status also apply to the ownership of multiple half-dogs?

Think it through: multiple half-dogs is just a whole-dog-and-a-fraction. You can't be a crazy dog lady if you don't even have two whole dogs.

Cats... Meh. Although I had a great one once. His name was William (as in Shakespeare). He was white with black spots, with long hair and a pink nose. He would sleep on Mr H's head like a Cossacks hat. I got him in undergrad and had him all through vet school and my residency and then into my first real job. I lived a lot of life with that cat.

Sadly he got a rare lung cancer which weirdly spread to the muscles of his back. Before I could decide if I really wanted to put him through chemo, he threw a blood clot to a major vessel supplying his right front leg. Excruciatingly painful thing to happen, so the decision was made.

He's buried in the yard of that crappy apartment I was renting in Boston.

I've had two cats since, both fairly ungrateful types. So I'm taking a break from cats. Although I do have a cat patient- his owners are Hawaiian and they travel back to the islands frequently. I've told them they can put this in their will- if they both die in a plane crash, I'll take the cat. :)

gnome 04-18-17 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19521119)
Think it through: multiple half-dogs is just a whole-dog-and-a-fraction. You can't be a crazy dog lady if you don't even have two whole dogs.

Cats... Meh. Although I had a great one once. His name was William (as in Shakespeare). He was white with black spots, with long hair and a pink nose. He would sleep on Mr H's head like a Cossacks hat. I got him in undergrad and had him all through vet school and my residency and then into my first real job. I lived a lot of life with that cat.

Sadly he got a rare lung cancer which weirdly spread to the muscles of his back. Before I could decide if I really wanted to put him through chemo, he threw a blood clot to a major vessel supplying his right front leg. Excruciatingly painful thing to happen, so the decision was made.

He's buried in the yard of that crappy apartment I was renting in Boston.

I've had two cats since, both fairly ungrateful types. So I'm taking a break from cats. Although I do have a cat patient- his owners are Hawaiian and they travel back to the islands frequently. I've told them they can put this in their will- if they both die in a plane crash, I'll take the cat. :)

Nice try. I think ownership of half-dogs has to be like servitude of cats. More than three at once and you are well on the way to crazy owner status. More than four and you are at crazy owner status.

Rowan 04-19-17 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19521052)

The Velo Vol band tunes to the first clarinet.

So does the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, under direction of the Concert Master, a violinist (Emma McGrath, and a damned fine one at that). The string section is the last to tune.

datlas 04-19-17 06:03 AM

Time to ride. I will try not to break a lot of spokes.


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