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Do you have "upgraditis"?

Old 04-04-17, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
I wish I had more upgraditis. My '83 Miyata 710 is still rocking the old Schwinn-branded tires that were there when I got it a year ago. They're cheapo gumwalls with a raised centerline, they're neither supple nor have a very nice cornering feel, and at 28mm wide they each weight FIVE HUNDRED GRAMS. After a year of use, there's no visible wear and tear. Nor any apparent age-related cracking. I'm waiting for them to die, but it seems like they'll last forever.

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The one thing you can do to guaranty that something will last forever is to decide that you hate it and are just waiting for it to crap out so you can replace it. In that situation Murphy's law dictates that it'll last forever.

If you really want to replace these tires, ride your bike up some rarely traveled path or road going far from any alternate transport, and being sure not to have a tube, patch kit, cell phone or money with you.
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Old 04-04-17, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by motosonic View Post
I get upgradeitis all the time. There's always some new toy that entices you into wanting it. The trick is to resist unless there's a reason to do so.. like a significant improvement over current item being upgraded.
There are people who will tell you that upgrading a $900 wheelset to a $2000 wheelset will be 'worth the money' and you'll 'notice the difference immediately'. Or something to that degree.. but, I can assure you that if you're the average rider (which many of us are, let's face it) 95% of the time, it's simply not true. I have 2 sets of shimano road pedals.. One Dura Ace and the other is a SPD SL. Huge difference in price. I, personally, couldn't tell the difference. They make u want the DA pedals and you're made to feel like the SPD SL's aren't that good.. But believe me, unless you race, it doesn't matter.. and even then I'd argue that it're more the person than the parts.
I would definitely agree with your remarks. I'm typically very cheap and conservative with spending and I usually try and do the whole price to performance ratio. If I'm spending $200 on something to replace something that cost $100, I would want that replacement to be twice as good or valuable to me. If it's a marginal improvement, I shouldn't get it. This doesn't always work, hence buying new tires when I didn't need them, but no one is perfect LOL. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and if the perception that my new tires will be faster, placebo effect might kick in and I could potentially actually be faster as a result.
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Old 04-04-17, 05:07 PM
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Not so much, really. About a year ago I upgraded my race bike - not because I wanted a fancier one, but because I wanted a slightly larger frame. The upgrades just came with it. Aside from that, I've not really had the urge to upgrade equipment. Just an urge to get some fresh kit.

I learned not to get excited about upgrades after shelling out a lot of cash for fancy wheels. While they did everything I wanted and I got a lot of bang for the buck on the visual front, they've never really seemed THAT much better performance-wise.
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Old 04-04-17, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
I learned not to get excited about upgrades after shelling out a lot of cash for fancy wheels. While they did everything I wanted and I got a lot of bang for the buck on the visual front, they've never really seemed THAT much better performance-wise.
It's really good to read that as I think marketing and hype plays a lot into many upgrades with unrealistic expectations. I've always heard get better wheels, splurge on wheels, etc... So I have a feeling I would have the same results as you and the price to performance wouldn't really be justified.
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Old 04-04-17, 05:23 PM
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Guilty!

But I think I have good reasons to justify.

1. Don't own a car (i.e. loan/lease + monthly insurance + gas + maintenance)
2. I spend very little money on other stuff. I make mortgage payments, buy bike parts and save rest.
3. I ride the crap out of whatever I buy so they actually get used and not just satisfy G.A.S.

I buy things simply cause I like them. I don't BS myself to think that they bring any meaningful performance benefit.
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Old 04-04-17, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Way back mid 80s when making single digit hourly wage I decided not to ever worry about that.
There it is right there. I don't need to justify anything to anyone.
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Old 04-04-17, 05:47 PM
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Only "upgraditis" I have is on PC. I customize my own PC and I always upgrade whenever there's new components came out.
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Old 04-04-17, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JMH714 View Post
Only "upgraditis" I have is on PC. I customize my own PC and I always upgrade whenever there's new components came out.
I used to be like that. I always had the latest and greatest. I have been in IT my entire life and no longer upgrade haha. My HTPC is from 2009 I think lol.
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Old 04-04-17, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JMH714 View Post
Only "upgraditis" I have is on PC. I customize my own PC and I always upgrade whenever there's new components came out.
Do I need a 2 TB SSD when I have <512GB of local data?
Do I need 64GB of RAM when I don't really run VMs?
Do I need a 4K 55" monitor
BigMonitor.jpg

Of Course - I need to get a 4K video camera and edit bike races.
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Old 04-04-17, 06:22 PM
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The off season here is long (I don't ride in the Winter) and it can indeed get expensive when I can't ride. Last year I bought a Campy Scirocco 35mm wheelset for my road bike.
This year I converted my mountain bike to 1X with an oval chainring, and had custom wheels built for it. The mountain bike only has one season of wear on it.

So yeah... I definitely have it. Mind you, I'm very good at justifying. My justification is that I'll be 53 this Summer, so the upgrades are getting done now so I can enjoy them as long as possible. :-)
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Old 04-04-17, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JBerman View Post
I used to be like that. I always had the latest and greatest. I have been in IT my entire life and no longer upgrade haha. My HTPC is from 2009 I think lol.
Wow... lol. I'm member at iRacing - that's the reason I kept upgrading my PC to keep ahead. I'm working on new PC with Oculus Rift. It's going to kill my saving!

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Do I need a 2 TB SSD when I have <512GB of local data?
Do I need 64GB of RAM when I don't really run VMs?
Do I need a 4K 55" monitor
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Of Course - I need to get a 4K video camera and edit bike races.
That's bit overkill unless you're using it for video editing.
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Old 04-04-17, 06:30 PM
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I don't have "upgraditis", but I constantly fight the urge to add another bike to the collection.
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Old 04-04-17, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JMH714 View Post
Wow... lol. I'm member at iRacing - that's the reason I kept upgrading my PC to keep ahead. I'm working on new PC with Oculus Rift. It's going to kill my saving!



That's bit overkill unless you're using it for video editing.
Most of my work I could do with and average 8GB HD good Internet and 40GB storage. Most of it is VPN, RDP and code. I do data and ERP - boring stuff. In the 80s I was cutting edge CAD and CAM. So as time moves on I get lower tech. Now I move files between trading partners. Really a 55" 4K is not so I can take it all in. It is so I can move my head and see email, billing systems, what I'm doing (in a window), doc and of course BF up all the time. It is better than this multi-desktop task switching thing.

But true - I do Video editing. And there is no such thing as too much overkill for video editing.
So far - just HD, but have been thinking 4K would be nicer.

150-300Mbps (down - I wish it were up) is useful too. Got to upload that video (and move customer data).
Actually the phone uploads faster than cable.

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Old 04-04-17, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Most of my work I could do with and average 8GB HD good Internet and 40GB storage. Most of it is VPN, RDP and code. I do data and ERP - boring stuff. In the 80s I was cutting edge CAD and CAM. So as time moves on I get lower tech. Now I move files between trading partners. Really a 55" 4K is not so I can take it all in. It is so I can move my head and see email, billing systems, what I'm doing (in a window), doc and of course BF up all the time. It is better than this multi-desktop task switching thing.

But true - I do Video editing. And there is no such thing as too much overkill for video editing.
So far - just HD, but have been thinking 4K would be nicer.

150-300Mbps (down - I wish it were up) is useful too. Got to upload that video (and move customer data).
Actually the phone uploads faster than cable.
I agree that there's no such "overkill" if it's for video editing. But it's overkill for something like iRacing or other gaming.

That's my "iRacing" rig - you tell me how overkill I have done?

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I'd go leather seat even though cloth breaths better. But that is my age showing.
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Old 04-05-17, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JMH714 View Post
Only "upgraditis" I have is on PC. I customize my own PC and I always upgrade whenever there's new components came out.
I used to have it for PCs too, but was too poor. Once I started making more money I went and had kids, which resulted in no spending money and no time to use the PC. Now I that I ride my bike to work I feel I have a hobby that I want to spend on. To me, buying things and looking for things for my bike is part of the fun of a hobby. I don't get half of what I want, but am always looking for something, needed or not.

Also, like someone else stated I too don't spend money on anything else, so give me a break.
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Old 04-05-17, 06:42 AM
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I used to have it for PCs too, but was too poor. Once I started making more money I went and had kids, which resulted in no spending money and no time to use the PC. Now I that I ride my bike to work I feel I have a hobby that I want to spend on. To me, buying things and looking for things for my bike is part of the fun of a hobby. I don't get half of what I want, but am always looking for something, needed or not.

Also, like someone else stated I too don't spend money on anything else, so give me a break.
Within reason, it is all good. Some guys go to bars a lot, gamble, go to sporting events, or blow a lot of money on cars, boats, or golf. Or they spend their time, or money on video gaming. Sort of how I sell my spending habits to the wife. Compared to some of these pursuits, cycling is a bargain. And, gets us outside and exercising. And it is something we can do as a family.
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Sure. I've got five bikes. So I could always use more stuff.
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