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Do you angle your saddle?

Old 04-25-17, 07:52 AM
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Do you angle your saddle?

While looking at some road frames with "aero" seatposts/seatmasts, it occurred to me that they do not allow you to angle a saddle left/right in the same way that a traditional round post would allow.

I know everyone is different when it comes to saddle positioning and comfort, but I've found that the ability to angle my saddle to the left a few degrees has massively increased comfort. It's a big enough difference that riding with the saddle straight ahead is torture after 5 miles, but turning it left a bit can allow me to ride comfortably for a metric quarter century or more. Even a real century.

I know based on bike photos posted here that there is a big range of up/down angle that people find comfortable. How about "twist"? Anyone else experiment with left/right angles?
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Old 04-25-17, 07:54 AM
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No, I don't.
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What's your angle here? And why isn't this a poll?
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Old 04-25-17, 08:00 AM
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That's odd. Is this due to asymmetries in your anatomy?
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I can feel a very small twist to eiher side, with the relavant thigh. It bothers me. I never thought I had an OCD bone in my body, but in this case, yes I do.
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Old 04-25-17, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
What's your angle here? And why isn't this a poll?
Yes/no doesn't make for a very exciting poll. Also I blew it and hit "submit" before adding poll choices.

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That's odd. Is this due to asymmetries in your anatomy?
I've been thinking about it and it has to be. I do have some shims under one of my cleats due to a leg length discrepancy, and I think I naturally twist my pelvis a bit while pedaling so my left sitbone finds itself a bit further back than the right sitbone, hence a twist of the saddle nose to the left by maybe 6 degrees.
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Old 04-25-17, 08:05 AM
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I do prefer an angle of a few degrees. I find that it allows me to shift positions/pressure points when I need to.
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I angle my saddle slightly to the left. I used to be bothered by frequent saddle sores on the left side, until someone recommended angling my saddle slightly toward the side where I got sores. I tried that and the sores went away and never returned.
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Do you find that one side gets more sore than the other?

Mine does.

Twisting the saddle didn't help as much as adding extra thickness to one side of the saddle.

X-ray show one sitbone smaller.

Went through half a dozen saddles before figured this out.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
That's odd. Is this due to asymmetries in your anatomy?
or the angle of your dangle, if you will...
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Originally Posted by f4rrest View Post
Do you find that one side gets more sore than the other?

Mine does.

Twisting the saddle didn't help as much as adding extra thickness to one side of the saddle.

X-ray show one sitbone smaller.

Went through half a dozen saddles before figured this out.
How'd you add thickness to one side of the saddle? Just tape down a thin layer of foam or what?
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
How'd you add thickness to one side of the saddle? Just tape down a thin layer of foam or what?
Posted in Hot or Not...

Some rubber, double sided tape and electrical tape.

Snazzy.


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Saddle points maybe 2º to the left. Noticed one day that it was angled, corrected it to straight, and my nethers were none too pleased. Had unknowingly been riding it angled for who knows how long. I also suspect my left leg is a smidge shorter than the right, but have done nothing intentionally or incidentally to address it.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
How'd you add thickness to one side of the saddle? Just tape down a thin layer of foam or what?
It's simple. Eat extra dessert on one side. Get a sundae, for example, that has extra ice cream and whip on the left side, if you need padding on the left side. Eat the left half of a pie. Only grab leftovers from the left side of the fridge. It adds up quickly!
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Slightly left
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2 degrees to the right.
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Yes, downwards. That is what the pros do.
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Level. That's what fitters tell you to start with. I've never had a need to change it.
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+1 for a little down. I didn't know it until I put a bubble level on the top to try to remember the position that last time I wanted to remove it for cleaning. Use whatever position keeps your twig and two berries happy.
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The way my bike is i cant angle it up or down.
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I turn mine 90 degrees to the left and always ride on the right hand side of the group. Makes conversation easier.
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You must have a crooked crack. Mine is straight.


Is your pelvis straight to the frame & have the saddle at a slight angle to your body, meaning your body doesn't align with the saddle or are you very slightly rotating your torso?
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Originally Posted by Jean3n16 View Post
The way my bike is i cant angle it up or down.
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+1 for a little down. I didn't know it until I put a bubble level on the top to try to remember the position that last time I wanted to remove it for cleaning. Use whatever position keeps your twig and two berries happy.
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Level. That's what fitters tell you to start with. I've never had a need to change it.
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Yes, downwards. That is what the pros do.
I was asking about left/right angle, not up/down.

I get it, I didn't specify in the title and my OP was TL;DR
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Originally Posted by RShantz View Post
You must have a crooked crack. Mine is straight.


Is your pelvis straight to the frame & have the saddle at a slight angle to your body, meaning your body doesn't align with the saddle or are you very slightly rotating your torso?
I honestly don't know. I think I'm rotating my torso slightly. I'll have to have wifey take some pics of me next time I'm on the trainer to get a better idea of what's happening back there.

Don't worry, these will not be shared in the thread.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest View Post
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Some rubber, double sided tape and electrical tape.

Snazzy.

Ew. The OCP club would be appalled.
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