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Originally Posted by LottoAdecco02
(Post 19702227)
This is going to date me, but I was sometimes given flat warm coca-cola. And it actually worked! But, hey, we weren't even required to wear helmets so I'm sure the previously mentioned liquids are better choices...
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Maybe it was just an old-soigneurs-tale, but the flatness and room temp was said to speed up the recovery, plus prevent a brain-freeze headache and gas. Agreed on the cold coke being super tasty though.
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Sweet tea with a touch of salt.
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I'm lactose-intolerant though I can drink Lactaid milk. A lot of protein powders are whey protein and not true whey isolate, so lactose there too. I have been searching. Maybe if I cannot find a true whey isolate, I'll try to find a casein protein powder. Lots of those protein powders have tons of carbs and a million calories for lifters trying to pack on weight and muscle. We need a lactose-free protein powder for runners and cyclists.
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Originally Posted by Chandne
(Post 19702740)
I'm lactose-intolerant though I can drink Lactaid milk. A lot of protein powders are whey protein and not true whey isolate, so lactose there too. I have been searching. Maybe if I cannot find a true whey isolate, I'll try to find a casein protein powder. Lots of those protein powders have tons of carbs and a million calories for lifters trying to pack on weight and muscle. We need a lactose-free protein powder for runners and cyclists.
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Originally Posted by Chandne
(Post 19702740)
I'm lactose-intolerant though I can drink Lactaid milk. A lot of protein powders are whey protein and not true whey isolate, so lactose there too. I have been searching. Maybe if I cannot find a true whey isolate, I'll try to find a casein protein powder. Lots of those protein powders have tons of carbs and a million calories for lifters trying to pack on weight and muscle. We need a lactose-free protein powder for runners and cyclists.
Food for thought. Oh, and look into pea protein. |
Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 19702832)
why? Its not like you need a lot of protein after a ride, and the carbs to refill glycogen stores is arguably more important. Just use less than what a lifter would use if thats what you are after.
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Originally Posted by memebag
(Post 19702986)
I read a study that looked at the effect of protein consumed after various activities. They found evidence it helped repair muscles for cyclists more than any other activity. So it is like you need a lot of protein after a ride (if you want to repair your muscles).
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 19703006)
where is the study, how many g/kg do they recommend? Just because they found it helps does not mean you need alot.
I don't always drink protein shakes because sometimes I don't want to repair my muscles. |
Originally Posted by memebag
(Post 19703013)
I don't know where I read it. It was a year ago or so. They were testing the effect of protein shakes specifically. They said they couldn't measure a benefit for other sports, just cycling. So you do need a lot (if you want to repair your muscles).
I don't always drink protein shakes because sometimes I don't want to repair my muscles. So go ahead and find the paper that says only cyclists benefit from protein. |
Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 19703042)
Thats simply not true. For example this review paper outlines the role of protein consumption in resistance training etc. https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/arti...1550-2783-10-5
So go ahead and find the paper that says only cyclists benefit from protein. |
Originally Posted by memebag
(Post 19703130)
Why? So I can win the internet?
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I find after a 2hr ride a protein shake will help suppress appetite. Otherwise 4 hours later I'm eating everything in the house.
Oddly... after a 300+km ride this ravenous appetite kicks in after 5 days. The local bakery does very well on some Thursdays. |
Originally Posted by znomit
(Post 19703817)
I find after a 2hr ride a protein shake will help suppress appetite. Otherwise 4 hours later I'm eating everything in the house.
Oddly... after a 300+km ride this ravenous appetite kicks in after 5 days. The local bakery does very well on some Thursdays. |
I'm retired and cannot afford much. So I make my own. I mix 2 spoonfuls of sugar, 1 teaspoon of salt, 1/2 a lime or lemon and some cinnamon powder. Put it in a tall glass and leave it to chill for 1 day. I always have this in the fridge. I drink this after a my rides. During the rides, its just plain water.
At night, its always a glass of goats milk (I am allergic to lactose so cow's milk is a no no). Coffee is during my ride stops. |
Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 19703231)
Or you know, maybe find out why you came to that conclusion about something so fundamentally wrong in sports science?
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Originally Posted by memebag
(Post 19703914)
I know exactly how I came to this conclusion. I read a study. Isn't that what you did?
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
(Post 19702841)
I used to pound down the whey and milk-based products as a lifter. These days, milk protein is a total inflammation bomb in my system, which results in tendonitis, achy joints and saddle pain.
Food for thought. Oh, and look into pea protein. But why even a drink? How about a solid meal and a nap :-) |
Originally Posted by Racing Dan
(Post 19704228)
Not an expert, but I was thinking the same thing. These days many vegetable based powders are available. Soy, pea and what not.
But why even a drink? How about a solid meal and a nap :-) After a hard ride, sugary drink (OJ favorite) and some carby food. I'm not picky. |
I like VEGA recovery accelerator (they make great Sport Protein too). It's plant based, and has no added sugars or artificial additives. I am an ultra runner as well as cyclist, and this seems to enable me to tackle multiple big days in a row. Won't necessarily be for everyone, but I like it and it works for me.
https://myvega.com/vega-sport-recovery |
On the bike: 8 grams honey + 1 pinch of salt to 22 oz of water. Keeps you hydrated better than water alone, and it's not the sugar-bomb that most sports drinks are (not to mention over-priced).
After the ride: Mike's Mix Protein First recovery drink. It's all natural; all the carbs are low glycemic index (i.e. don't spike your blood sugar) and it has a relatively low carbs-to-protein ratio (I prefer a lower-carb diet, and most recovery drinks have a crazy amount of carbs). I also weight lift 5 days a week and find this helps my recovery. |
But I want the blood sugar spike and corresponding insulin response to push glycogen back into the muscles. After a hard ride.
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Originally Posted by Abe_Froman
(Post 19691375)
And gatorade is just overpriced water with salt and sugar.
Bottle full of water, good pinch of salt, an oz or 2 of simple syrup. Tastes better than gatorade, and does the same thing. Really all gatorade does over water is give you salt. If you're paranoid...you can get some potassium chloride...which is just no sodium table salt for people on salt resitricted diets, to get some potassium in your system. But from the nutrient loss rates i've seen, sodium loss/hyponatremia is the only thing you really need to worry about. Edit: i suppose if you're spending 15 hrs a day in full gear in the middle of a desert for weeks on end potassium loss might be an issue. But who knows, lol? I had hyponatremia once and it was not fun...so I do make sure to bring something besides just water on long, hot rides. |
Originally Posted by DPV
(Post 19704366)
I like VEGA recovery accelerator (they make great Sport Protein too). It's plant based, and has no added sugars or artificial additives. I am an ultra runner as well as cyclist, and this seems to enable me to tackle multiple big days in a row. Won't necessarily be for everyone, but I like it and it works for me.
https://myvega.com/vega-sport-recovery |
Originally Posted by beermode
(Post 19704925)
Powerade/Gatorade is almost as cheap as bottled water.
Never understood why people pay for water... |
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