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Look 595 frameset or CAAD 12 complete bike?

Old 07-05-17, 07:20 AM
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Look 595 frameset or CAAD 12 complete bike?

I have a chance at getting one of my favorite framesets in the Look 595. It is used but well taken care of, it's a 2008 model. So it has the lugs etc, etc, for $800.

But I also have the opportunity to purchase a new complete CAAD 12 with 105 gruppo for about $1000.

So my question to the cycling community: get my dream Look frameset, albeit used, and build it up the way I want and swap my Di2 on it. Or just get the new complete CAAD 12 and eventually change out the parts I don't want as funds are available? (I've never ridden a CAAD so I don't know the ride quality.)

Arguments for either side? Thanks!!
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Old 07-05-17, 07:59 AM
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Ride the CAAD12 and find out if you like it. Or buy both.
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Originally Posted by memebag View Post
Ride the CAAD12 and find out if you like it. Or buy both.
Lol! I wish I could buy both!!

Unfortunately due to timing I may not be able to test out a CAAD 12. So I'm hoping some others who've ridden CAAD bikes can chime in. Thanks!!!
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Old 07-05-17, 11:23 AM
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Look. Definitely go for your "dream".
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Old 07-05-17, 11:23 AM
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Lol! I wish I could buy both!!

Unfortunately due to timing I may not be able to test out a CAAD 12. So I'm hoping some others who've ridden CAAD bikes can chime in. Thanks!!!
I've got a CAAD12, but I haven't ridden the Look. The CAAD12 is the best bike I've ever ridden, but that's an entirely subjective opinion.
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I vote for the LOOK 595, if the frame fits. Do you have enough seat mast on the used frame? Does it come with enough seatpost insert to fine tune the saddle height? The ISP makes the 595 one good looking frame and also the main reason I stay away from it. ( I have a 585 ).

You see Cannondale on the road all the time, how often you ever see a Look on the road.
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Old 07-05-17, 07:29 PM
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I vote for the LOOK 595, if the frame fits. Do you have enough seat mast on the used frame? Does it come with enough seatpost insert to fine tune the saddle height? The ISP makes the 595 one good looking frame and also the main reason I stay away from it. ( I have a 585 ).

You see Cannondale on the road all the time, how often you ever see a Look on the road.
I'll find out for sure this weekend when I go to inspect it. It may actually be slightly longer, which I think is good for me!

And yeah, always nice to see Look on the roads!
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The CAAD12 is one of my favorite riding aluminum bikes, without question! However, I would say go for your "dream", buying a bike because it's "good enough" never ends well. Get what you really want, which to me, sounds like the Look 595.
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Old 07-06-17, 05:57 AM
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I wouldn't ride a bike because of how it looks, or how special it will make me look. I'm sure you can find a Cannondale dealer and test ride a CAAD12.
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follow your dreams.
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Originally Posted by Gee3 View Post
I'll find out for sure this weekend when I go to inspect it. It may actually be slightly longer, which I think is good for me!

And yeah, always nice to see Look on the roads!
just a reminder for your weekend appointment, measure your current saddle height distant from BB center to top of saddle.
Bring a tape measure and a long string when you check out the bike.

Good luck, hope this works out for you.

Get what you want, it does not have to be practical.
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Originally Posted by SSRI View Post
just a reminder for your weekend appointment, measure your current saddle height distant from BB center to top of saddle.
Bring a tape measure and a long string when you check out the bike.

Good luck, hope this works out for you.

Get what you want, it does not have to be practical.
Thanks for the reminder about the measurements! I still have the measurements from my last bike fitting. So I'll be sure to have those with me too! 👍🏼
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Go for the Look. CAAD12 you can get any time. Can't say the same for the Look. If you don't get it you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
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Go for the Look. CAAD12 you can get any time. Can't say the same for the Look. If you don't get it you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
For what its worth at the end of the day its just a bike either one will be a nice addition to what you already have or have had in the past I bought my dream bike or so I thought lol a bmc full ultegra di2 and I still get more joy out of riding my 1989 cannondale with downtube shifters what a race rocket came down a hill today at 47 miles a hour most my bmc has done down the same hill many times is 44 so the point is whatever u choose if u ride it alot u will enjoy it
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For what its worth at the end of the day its just a bike either one will be a nice addition to what you already have or have had in the past I bought my dream bike or so I thought lol a bmc full ultegra di2 and I still get more joy out of riding my 1989 cannondale with downtube shifters what a race rocket came down a hill today at 47 miles a hour most my bmc has done down the same hill many times is 44 so the point is whatever u choose if u ride it alot u will enjoy it
I understand the spirit of what you're saying, but a 3mph difference can be caused by so many different factors that I don't think it's a proper comparison.
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Look.

If you get the caad you will always wonder what could have been. Like, with every pedal stroke.
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Go for the bike you really want. You only live once compadre.
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I'd go with a CAAD12. Frame is legit. The look frame is too old, even though it's carbon, will probably underperform the caad. It will probable be smoother than the caad, but the caad feels pretty stiff. You can work with the caad12 frame to make it really light and great. Get ultegra caad12 frame with a set of nice carbon wheels.

Classic bikes are cool to have too, it isn't all about the performance. $800 for an old frameset seems crazy to me though. Ah you're in the bay area, so people sell used things on craiglist for new prices, go figure (i'm close to you in location )

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