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Stickiest clincher for road racing?

Old 07-15-17, 07:21 PM
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Stickiest clincher for road racing?

Hello,

What do you recommend in terms of the Stickiest clincher for road racing?
A search did not produce anything, but if there is already a thread for this topic please point me to it.
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Old 07-15-17, 07:34 PM
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Not sure what you're looking for by "sticky". There are a few tires that seem to make up the overwhelming majority of tires used during races. When running clinchers I like Specialized Turbo Cottons.
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Old 07-15-17, 08:08 PM
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Vittoria Open corsa; continental GP 4000;
Schwalbe one.

Pick any top road tire from a major manufacturer and they are all pretty similar, and any will be fine
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Old 07-15-17, 08:08 PM
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The Conti chili compounds are good...
As you decided on clinchers.
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Old 07-15-17, 08:17 PM
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I'm not sure how this would be desirable, but if you cover any tire in tubular glue, it will be the stickiest in the field.
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Old 07-15-17, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
I'm not sure how this would be desirable, but if you cover any tire in tubular glue, it will be the stickiest in the field.
Might not. Sticky picks up dirt, dust, pebbles - and becomes un-stickey.
You want something that will not pickup junk - and be sticky.
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Old 07-15-17, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Might not. Sticky picks up dirt, dust, pebbles - and becomes un-stickey.
You want something that will not pickup junk - and be sticky.
Hey, I didn't say that it would have a good coefficient of friction, or grip well... just that it would be sticky.
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Old 07-15-17, 09:28 PM
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Gp4000...covered in Honey.
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Old 07-15-17, 09:44 PM
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Conti Supersonics
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Old 07-15-17, 09:45 PM
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Grip often comes at a price. Tires can be twitchy or when one gets close to the limit they let go suddenly. The old generation Michelin Pro 3 come to mind - tons of grip but will bite you without warning if you push it past the limit.

It is rare to find a tire that's predictable, forgiving and has excellent grip and given a choice, I'd rather have a predictable tire with good grip than an unpredictable tire with high grip.

Practicing late braking and cornering techniques helps. A lot has to do with the skill of the rider.

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Old 07-15-17, 10:00 PM
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Try some Schwalbe Ones. Jenson USA has the V-Guard folder version in 700x23 on sale for $15 now, a bargain (it's been discontinued and replaced by a slightly different variation). It's rated well for dry adhesion after break in (not so great for wet), and low rolling resistance -- although it's been surpassed since it was introduced in 2014.

I just got a pair from Jenson. Hoping to try 'em tomorrow or the next day. They're slicks. After rubbing off the mold release with my fingers the rubber feels very soft and grippy. Probably won't wear well but at that price I'm not gonna complain. Mostly I'm hoping the V-Guard version won't get cut up and punctured on our chipseal roads.

And I'd be willing to try some Vittoria Rubino or Corsa. I've been riding a set of Zaffiros for about six weeks and while they feel a bit sluggish they're tough and grippy, very predictable on patches of wet, sandy gravel, stuff I can't avoid on turns. No unpleasant surprises, even with skidding braking in traffic and slight sideways skids. If the Rubinos and Corsas are faster rolling versions with similar predictable adhesion qualities they'd be good.
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Conti Supersonics
I have a pair in 20c for my track bike but I won't even roll them on pavement. I carry the bike into the velodrome. They do stick.
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Old 07-16-17, 05:35 PM
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I'd be more concerned about the stickiness of the surface: sand, stones, leaves, oil.
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Old 07-16-17, 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I should have specified that stickiness in terms of cornering, but I thought stickiness is stickiness regardless on the corners or not. I have a pair of Vittoria Corsa G+, Conti GRAND PRIX 4 SEASON, and Schwalbe One. I'm guessing I'm in good hands (or rubber in this case)
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Old 07-17-17, 09:50 AM
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Whatever came stock on the Venge one of the guys in a couple of my group rides has. Until he wore them out and replaced them riding behind him was a shower of small rocks and sand.
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Old 07-17-17, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq View Post
Whatever came stock on the Venge one of the guys in a couple of my group rides has. Until he wore them out and replaced them riding behind him was a shower of small rocks and sand.
A stickier tire would have held on to those.
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Old 07-17-17, 11:24 AM
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Schwalbe One feels really good in corners, and can run at lower pressure without sacrificing rolling resistance.
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Old 07-17-17, 11:49 AM
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A stickier tire would have held on to those.
Stickier tires wouldn't roll at all. First time you set the bike down it better be in a place where you'd want it to sit forever.
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I like the Schwalbe One (HS 448), but it has poor grip in the wet. Otherwise itís a top-notch tyre at a more reasonable price than the high-end stuff.

There are large differences in wet grip between tyres on the market. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing which ones are good and which are bad until you buy them. The web is full of nonsense on the topic. And while rolling resistance is carefully tested in lab conditions, wet grip is not (or if Wheel Energy tests this, the results arenít published).
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My preferred tire for downhill on fix gears is the Vittoria Open Paves (most of which have the center strip or outside strips green). Those tires are known for wet road traction. They wear fast and cut easily (I think from picking stuff up) but for tires I believe in when gong down roads I don't know, they are my first choice. I have more confidence they will re-grip after losing traction (say hitting some sand) than just about anything else I have ridden.

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Old 07-17-17, 03:31 PM
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Michelin PRO4 COMP LIMITED

The Michelin Pro4 Comp Limited tire is one of the lightest and fastest clincher tires on the market today. The Comp Limited gains an incredible 4 meters per minute against the already quick Pro4 Service Course, giving it the highest efficiency and lowest rolling resistance of any tire in Michelin's line up. It also gets a 30% weight reduction ......blah...blah...blah.
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Old 07-17-17, 04:25 PM
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You know I don't even understand how a tire can feel more or less grippy in the fast, descending corners; unless it literally slips out from under you.

But I've definitely had some that gave me some kind of bad vibe about how much I could lean or how fast I could go around the bends, and others that literally inspire confidence to rail hard. Is it all imagination?

Worst: Hutchison Fusion
Best: Vittoria Corsa
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Old 07-17-17, 04:53 PM
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You can tell how easily a rear wheel spins when climbing a familiar, steep hill on a wet day.

You can also tell how easily the rear wheel locks up when braking on wet roads, although this test has to be repeated deliberately or accidentally many times to smooth out the noise and provide meaningful information.

As you say, itís hard to tell anything by cornering on slicks until itís too late, even though it is in wet corners where the differences matter the most.

Of tyres Iíve used, the Michelin Pro4 Grip has had the best wet grip (very different from a Schwalbe One), but that is a draggy tyre.
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