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Weird thing about Strava leaderboard.

Old 09-04-17, 06:51 PM
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Weird thing about Strava leaderboard.

I used to have the KOM on this segment near me. My best time is 1:41 and a buddy of mine just beat me by two seconds at 1:39. When I went to check the leader board I am now in 9th place with 1:59 seconds.

When I look at my attempts I see my 1:41 and 1:49 which would put me at 2nd and 5th. But I'm showing 9th with a 1:59 time my 3rd best time on this segment.

What gives?
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I barely use Strava at all, so this may be a really stupid notion. However, are you sure you're not checking the fastest times this year, as opposed to all-time?
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Originally Posted by TheRef
I used to have the KOM on this segment near me. My best time is 1:41 and a buddy of mine just beat me by two seconds at 1:39. When I went to check the leader board I am now in 9th place with 1:59 seconds.

When I look at my attempts I see my 1:41 and 1:49 which would put me at 2nd and 5th. But I'm showing 9th with a 1:59 time my 3rd best time on this segment.

What gives?
Does it say something like "Old Version" beside your 1:41 and 1:49 times? I saw that happen on 1 of mine recently.
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Someone could have possibly flagged those two rides for whatever reason(?)
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Are you looking at the "Analysis"? Frequently the results under Analysis is slightly different than the official Strava results. Although I don't think that could account for 18 seconds.

I'm inclined to go with B. Carfree on this one, and say that you've probably set a filter somewhere showing results by year, month, or day. Look at other results on the leaderboard and see if there are any 2015 or 2016 numbers.
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If you care send a message to Strava support.
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Originally Posted by TheRef
I used to have the KOM on this segment near me. My best time is 1:41 and a buddy of mine just beat me by two seconds at 1:39. When I went to check the leader board I am now in 9th place with 1:59 seconds.

When I look at my attempts I see my 1:41 and 1:49 which would put me at 2nd and 5th. But I'm showing 9th with a 1:59 time my 3rd best time on this segment.

What gives?
Was your segment flagged?
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Was your segment flagged?
No, the rides were not flagged. And I didnt have any filters. A quick google search ponted me to the solution but I still don't know why it happened.


https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/...Segment-Result
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Originally Posted by TheRef
I used to have the KOM on this segment near me. My best time is 1:41 and a buddy of mine just beat me by two seconds at 1:39. When I went to check the leader board I am now in 9th place with 1:59 seconds.

When I look at my attempts I see my 1:41 and 1:49 which would put me at 2nd and 5th. But I'm showing 9th with a 1:59 time my 3rd best time on this segment.

What gives?
You forgot to read the small print.

Every time you go back and check the times seeking self gratification, you're top remaining time is removed from the board. Don't go look because you'll lose the 1:59, and fall out of the top 10.
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I had a stravastalker that flagged a bunch of my rides. Weird. and they weren't even KOM rides. I mean they were solid PR's, but not KOMs. KOM's on river road are tough.
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It's a Strava bug. What you need to do is on the website is click the segment, then choose "view full leaderboard", then on the right under "actions" choose "refresh my results". It should then put your PR for that segment into the leaderboard at its rightful position.

(I've contacted Strava support about this before . . . )
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Happened to me recently. Beat my Kom but didnt show on the leaderboard. Even refreshing the ride didnt correct it. Had to contact strava.
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Originally Posted by nycphotography
I had a stravastalker that flagged a bunch of my rides. Weird. and they weren't even KOM rides. I mean they were solid PR's, but not KOMs. KOM's on river road are tough.
I am a stravastalker - kinda. I had an account. Then my kid started riding. I gave him my account (he was 9). Now it is his. But I still have the PW. When anyone takes his KOMs, I wait a few days ask and get something like "Dad - I don't care.". But I do. I flag anything that looks suspicious. Well not really, but 60mph+ is a clue.
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Originally Posted by Doge
I am a stravastalker - kinda. I had an account. Then my kid started riding. I gave him my account (he was 9). Now it is his. But I still have the PW. When anyone takes his KOMs, I wait a few days ask and get something like "Dad - I don't care.". But I do. I flag anything that looks suspicious. Well not really, but 60mph+ is a clue.
~40mph up a hill?
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Originally Posted by San Pedro
~40mph up a hill?
Generally. Could maybe happen in a sprint.

There is a freeway section where 12 year old racers often leave their computers on after races. I assume it is, like I was, a parent uploading kid stuff and not really paying attention. Still, I think "what about the children?" when I flag their 70mph segments. Then I do. Oh well, dad was speeding.
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some of my kom's... nothing any racer couldn't beat if they set out to... generally they're a really strong day on a commute when the lights and the wind were all cooperating.

So when someone beats one, I look at the ride. There's a few dead giveaways, like taking the car lane (approach) over a bridge vs the bike lane approach, or doing 40 on an extended or uphill section. I flag em.

There's a few that I swear have to be cars or ebikes, but I can't say for sure.... so I don't flag em.
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Originally Posted by Doge
There is a freeway section where 12 year old racers often leave their computers on after races.
Seems quite common, I've seen some of them around my area. The first half of the ride looks legit, then the route turns into a parking lot and suddenly they're doing 80-100 km/h.
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Originally Posted by atwl77
Seems quite common, I've seen some of them around my area. The first half of the ride looks legit, then the route turns into a parking lot and suddenly they're doing 80-100 km/h.
My point, which I was not direct enough about is that many parents are uploading youth/kid's data for them, and not paying much attention. Most adults/older kids seeing their Strava mis-posts would fix it.
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The biggest "for sure" giveaway is to go to the analysis page of the ride in question and look at the elapsed time. Dragging the mouse over the graph, the time will suddenly jump, from a few minutes to a few hours. If the speed after the time break is significantly higher, the bike is now in/on a car. The best I've seen was a ride of about an hour and a half, with a total elapsed time of almost 1600 hours. I cannot even conceive how that happens.
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If you flag everyone faster than you before you upload your segment says KOM.
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Originally Posted by nycphotography
some of my kom's... nothing any racer couldn't beat if they set out to... generally they're a really strong day on a commute when the lights and the wind were all cooperating.

So when someone beats one, I look at the ride. There's a few dead giveaways, like taking the car lane (approach) over a bridge vs the bike lane approach, or doing 40 on an extended or uphill section. I flag em.

There's a few that I swear have to be cars or ebikes, but I can't say for sure.... so I don't flag em.
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The biggest "for sure" giveaway is to go to the analysis page of the ride in question and look at the elapsed time. Dragging the mouse over the graph, the time will suddenly jump, from a few minutes to a few hours. If the speed after the time break is significantly higher, the bike is now in/on a car. The best I've seen was a ride of about an hour and a half, with a total elapsed time of almost 1600 hours. I cannot even conceive how that happens.
Yup, repeated stops and accelerations to 30+ are a giveaway - I mean, it's doable, but damn is it tough after the first couple.

The thing that I always look at, too, is the device - phones are *much* more likely to be forgotten about. Also, HR data - 80 bpm at 28mph ain't happening.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
... Also, HR data - 80 bpm at 28mph ain't happening.
Many of the Superhuman rides do not come with HR.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Many of the Superhuman rides do not come with HR.
I'm not talking about when it's not there - I'm saying that it's a huge red flag when it is there and it's grossly out of whack.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Many of the Superhuman rides do not come with HR.
Nor do they have power. No power, no HR.

I really think Strava should require HR and power data for KOM inclusion.
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