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Old 09-12-17, 06:01 PM
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Looking to buy a Giant TCR...

So I went into an LBS yesterday expecting to buy a Defy 3. My first road bike was too small a frame (ordered it onlien without trying-stupid I know). Didn't like the Defy.

Tried the TCR and really really liked it. It's effective top tube is 57 although Size My Bike says between 54 and 55 for me. It is a little higher than the $1k I thought about ( I tried the $1700 model and the $2300 model and honestly wit hthe Tiegra shifters didnt' really feel a huge difference).

I can't find the TCR online anywhere used.

So my questions:

Are there any common bikes with the TCR geometry (or any bike website that allows me to input Giant TCR and get similar geometry bikes) that is slightly cheaper?

If I can't find a used TCR, I may buy the new for $1700

The giant defy and defy advanced are he same geometry, no?
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Have a look at Cannondale's Supersix Evo and CAAD.
I tried TCR, Defy, Evolution, CAAD12 and Roubaix last November. Each over the same 10k loop. I liked the TCR almost as much as the Evo and CAAD12. You could probably find a CAAD for in your budget but if you want carbon then the Evo would be your choice.
Try to demo both - the CAAD provides really good road feel, too much for my endurance rides (all that vibration after 100 miles would be a bit much).
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Just buy the TCR from your LBS if you like, especially you already test rode a few bikes there. You might be able to get a good price on a 2017 TCR Advanced 2, which is very hard to beat price wise for carbon, full 105, and sold at an LBS.

If you want something online, should be able to find quite a few cheaper race geometry bikes that would be similar to a TCR.
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Taller head tube on the Defy compared to TCR. Shorter top tube as well. Plus some other things.
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Just buy the TCR from your LBS if you like, especially you already test rode a few bikes there. You might be able to get a good price on a 2017 TCR Advanced 2, which is very hard to beat price wise for carbon, full 105, and sold at an LBS.

If you want something online, should be able to find quite a few cheaper race geometry bikes that would be similar to a TCR.
+1.. i feel like going to test ride then buy somewhere else is not cool. If they have 2017 left you might be able to get a deal and with warranty/fit etc.
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Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
+1.. i feel like going to test ride then buy somewhere else is not cool. If they have 2017 left you might be able to get a deal and with warranty/fit etc.
Respectfully guys can we please stick to the questions I asked? Like if the advanced has a different geometry. I made my intentions known upfront. the LBS was more than willing to accomodate because their business was slow (downtown of a major city and I was practically ythe only customer for 2 hours)

After I test rided I actually gave the employer a $20 for his time. He seems really appreciative
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
Taller head tube on the Defy compared to TCR. Shorter top tube as well. Plus some other things.
Yeah I didn't like the shorter top tube on the Defy at all. Felt juts like my 52 frmae
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can't find a TCR used on line? Huh? Ebay is the used car lot for TCR's and every other race bike.

OP...the Defy as mention is an endurance geometry and more upright with shorter top tube.

Be honest with yourself about your riding needs. If going to race, get the TCR. For recreational training and even B group riding, get the Defy. All depends on your body proportions, fitness, flexibility and intention how you are going to ride the bike. If you cruised at 20 mph while riding solo on your previous bike, get the TCR. Most don't and for the vast majority of average riders, a bike like a Defy or Robaix, Domane etc is more comfortable.


The TCR...my riding buddy has one...is one of the great race bikes on the planet. One of the best. Giant makes great bikes.
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107 TCRs on ebay. Probably some of them in your size. If you learn to read a geometry chart you can easily determine if the fit of any bike will suit you. Or just pony up and buy one from your helpful LBS.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
can't find a TCR used on line? Huh? Ebay is the used car lot for TCR's and every other race bike.

OP...the Defy as mention is an endurance geometry and more upright with shorter top tube.

Be honest with yourself about your riding needs. If going to race, get the TCR. For recreational training and even B group riding, get the Defy. All depends on your body proportions, fitness, flexibility and intention how you are going to ride the bike. If you cruised at 20 mph while riding solo on your previous bike, get the TCR. Most don't and for the vast majority of average riders, a bike like a Defy or Robaix, Domane etc is more comfortable.


The TCR...my riding buddy has one...is one of the great race bikes on the planet. One of the best. Giant makes great bikes.


giant tcr in medium large? nope not even on completed listings. unless there is an ebay equivalent for used bikes i dont know of (pink something also didn't have it)
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Not much on eBay. I doubt many people are trying to get rid of their new TCRs though.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XTCR+M%2FL.TRS0&_nkw=TCR+M%2FL&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Giant-TCR-Composite-Road-Bike-Campagnolo-Chorus-10-Speed-size-M-L-/282644544967?hash=item41ceed7dc7:g:xqIAAOSw4i5ZsuIm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Giant-TCR-advanced-0-M-L-14-75-pounds-Campagnolo-Record-/132320717883?hash=item1eceedec3b:gkIAAOSwBMVZdgZI
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I saw about a dozen used TCR's on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...t+tcr&_sacat=0
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Where are you located? My team races Giant TCRs and some of them might be unloading for the new Propel so might be able to hook you up on an Advanced SL2
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OP, all TCRs don't have longer top tubes than you were looking for. The one they showed you has a longer top tube. You should definitely look one size down, M. Then pick the one that fits better.

Defy has different geometry. But all the TCR levels have the same as each other.
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All TCR's have had the same geometry for quite a few years. There is quite a jump in size between the M and the ML too.
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Where are you located? My team races Giant TCRs and some of them might be unloading for the new Propel so might be able to hook you up on an Advanced SL2
nj 07002...dam this post limit was annoying couldn't answr for 24 hours. i tried the defy 3 which was a 54.5 cm top tube but I definitely felt like I needed more bend over from it.

So i tried I think for the Defy 3 a Medium

but on the TCR a M/L

can you message me? ideally no more than 4 years old a 'medium large' frame (this is a size btw mediaum and large on the Giants). Do you have any availability now, and if not how long for the turnover?

Thanks berrios

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nj 07002...dam this post limit was annoying couldn't answr for 24 hours. i tried the defy 3 which was a 54.5 cm top tube but I definitely felt like I needed more bend over from it.

So i tried I think for the Defy 3 a Medium

but on the TCR a M/L

can you message me? ideally no more than 4 years old a 'medium large' frame (this is a size btw mediaum and large on the Giants). Do you have any availability now, and if not how long for the turnover?

Thanks berrios
It might be a minute before we move some of the bikes. It all depends how soon we can get the 2018 Propel. After we have an idea, and we see who wants to move to the Propel I can tell you but it might be too late. If I were you I'd get a 2017 Left over model from an LBS for about 20% less and all the warranty / fit. If you haven't found one in a month the SL2s we have might become available.
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It might be a minute before we move some of the bikes. It all depends how soon we can get the 2018 Propel. After we have an idea, and we see who wants to move to the Propel I can tell you but it might be too late. If I were you I'd get a 2017 Left over model from an LBS for about 20% less and all the warranty / fit. If you haven't found one in a month the SL2s we have might become available.

So the wait til is 1 month? I also want something $700 or less ideally. Might be willing to move to $1300 if the extra parts are worth it. Because I am thinking of the entry level TCR at $1700 new if anything


Something I wanted to ask

I tried the medium defy 3- its top tube seemed short to me

and the M-L TCR. I felt the M-L TCR was a better fit. I didn't try the medium on the tcr, when the LBS put me into their giant computer, a quick (and i really mean quick on the bend over) measure and input into Giant's compute rprogram also put me at M-L. Is it worth trying the Medium? I'm 5'10.5 with a longer torso than legs
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So the wait til is 1 month? I also want something $700 or less ideally. Might be willing to move to $1300 if the extra parts are worth it. Because I am thinking of the entry level TCR at $1700 new if anything


Something I wanted to ask

I tried the medium defy 3- its top tube seemed short to me

and the M-L TCR. I felt the M-L TCR was a better fit. I didn't try the medium on the tcr, when the LBS put me into their giant computer, a quick (and i really mean quick on the bend over) measure and input into Giant's compute rprogram also put me at M-L. Is it worth trying the Medium? I'm 5'10.5 with a longer torso than legs
Nevermind. A TCR for $700 might be hard to find but keep looking. These are $4200 bikes, no way they are letting go for that. Keep searching, you might find a 2009-2012 TCR for that, good bikes too.
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Nevermind. A TCR for $700 might be hard to find but keep looking. These are $4200 bikes, no way they are letting go for that. Keep searching, you might find a 2009-2012 TCR for that, good bikes too.
$1700 for the entry level advanced, new in Giant stores (in fact $1650). So I don't think even $900 is that out of question. BTW those are the prices I saw off of completed listings (sold) on Ebay for the last 2-4 years.

FYI I tried the medium defy yesterday and the M-L today. It is a real toss up with a ML Defy Advanced and TCR Advanced.

I liked to ride aerodynamic (hooks) on my 52cm frame, and have a longer torso than legs, but I'm second guessing whether the longer top tube now will result in me being able to hold that position for longer on the defy? The defy felt the smoother ride to me. On the other hand the TCR felt better on the hooks where I'm used to riding and slightly longer top tube. Both were great. It's a tough choice between the two.
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$1700 for the entry level advanced, new in Giant stores (in fact $1650). So I don't think even $900 is that out of question. BTW those are the prices I saw off of completed listings (sold) on Ebay for the last 2-4 years.

FYI I tried the medium defy yesterday and the M-L today. It is a real toss up with a ML Defy Advanced and TCR Advanced.

I liked to ride aerodynamic (hooks) on my 52cm frame, and have a longer torso than legs, but I'm second guessing whether the longer top tube now will result in me being able to hold that position for longer on the defy? The defy felt the smoother ride to me. On the other hand the TCR felt better on the hooks where I'm used to riding and slightly longer top tube. Both were great. It's a tough choice between the two.
How do you justify considering a new frame that corresponds to a 56 numerical size when you are currently riding a 52? Is the old bike that much too small? What has changed?
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How do you justify considering a new frame that corresponds to a 56 numerical size when you are currently riding a 52? Is the old bike that much too small? What has changed?
old bike alwayss felt too smallbecause my noob self never got it fitted but ordered it online based on some dumb schwinn chart. i also did a lot more swimming (dolphi nkicks) so the 56 on the hooks didn't feel bad it felt normal to me and didn't require anything more than passive core strength. actually think i prefer the tcr because im used to riding on the hooks
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How tall are you? A M/L Defy is quite tall in the head tube so you may not be able to get as low as you want. A Med Defy has the same headtube height as a M/L TCR. The reach can probably be worked around on either with stem length. Not wanting to turn this into another bike fit thread but you need to get your fit sorted before you choose a frame type/size.
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So the wait til is 1 month? I also want something $700 or less ideally. Might be willing to move to $1300 if the extra parts are worth it. Because I am thinking of the entry level TCR at $1700 new if anything


Something I wanted to ask

I tried the medium defy 3- its top tube seemed short to me

and the M-L TCR. I felt the M-L TCR was a better fit. I didn't try the medium on the tcr, when the LBS put me into their giant computer, a quick (and i really mean quick on the bend over) measure and input into Giant's compute rprogram also put me at M-L. Is it worth trying the Medium? I'm 5'10.5 with a longer torso than legs
Similar geometry in L for this bike to the TCR's ML
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribbl...05-fulcrum-se/
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I have an older TCR (Composite 2), with 10 speed Shimano 105

similar to this one (same colour):


fits me like a glove, and I'm busy upgrading it and have bought a few gadgets (HED Belgium Plus rims, with Chris King R45 hubs (ceramic upgrade), Brooks Cambium C17 Carved saddle, Cycliq Fly 6 rear camera. Garmin Virb Ultra 30 front camera, Garmin Radar, Garmin Edge 1000

I will look at upgrading the groupset

love it, and it's quick .... When I need to get another bike, I will transfer all the wheels etc to a new frame (most probably another Giant TCR frame)

only gripe is that wide tyres will not fit the frame. I only paid £600 for mine (used and basically brand new), and I received over £200 accesories (Tri Bars, shoes, cleats etc etc) which I sold on ebay
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