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5 Sports Where Custom Gear Really Ups Your Game

Old 10-04-17, 02:30 PM
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5 Sports Where Custom Gear Really Ups Your Game

5 Sports Where Custom Gear Really Ups Your Game - lifestyle - att.net

Cycling is one of them!
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Old 10-04-17, 07:31 PM
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A decent read but I reckon he's into promoting bespoke/boutique manufacturers rather than boosting performance. The majority of us can get away with off the rack kit, tweaked for our physiques. He doesn't qualify his point of view by admitting that the majority of performance is still conditioning and skill.
ANY UCI rider could jump on a Muffy and crush me over 50 to 100 miles.
ANY World Cup skier on rental skis would dust me on Kitzbuel (cries I probably wouldn't even go down the bloody thing).
Custom golf clubs? Might help me get under 100 more often (might...). But any tour pro would skin me with a set of bamboo shafted blades.
Don't get me wrong, custom kit is great but maybe only the final 5-10% of the result. There's still an awful lot of hard work that goes into excellence in any sport.
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Old 10-04-17, 08:37 PM
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Yeah, they posted links to some very boutique bike builders (Moots and Seven Cycles). Not saying they aren't good bikes, in fact after looking at their sites I was kinda wanting one, but they are uber expensive. You can go to your LBS and get a better bike and fit for at least half the cost, maybe even less.
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Old 10-04-17, 08:58 PM
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Funny, I would never had thought skiing would be on the list, but I did have a pair of boots back in my instructor days that a boot fitter spent a bit of time on.

Cycling......Yeah.
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Old 10-04-17, 09:18 PM
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I suppose it is too hard to change the height of a seat post and/or a stem.
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Old 10-04-17, 11:41 PM
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And I do 4 of the 5 sports.

I have expensive tastes
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Old 10-05-17, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
Funny, I would never had thought skiing would be on the list, but I did have a pair of boots back in my instructor days that a boot fitter spent a bit of time on.

Cycling......Yeah.
There's a blend between "custom" and "custom fitted" in the article. I would have thought skiing immediately, mainly because of the custom fitting of stock boots. And cycling because of the custom fitting of a stock frame. (And for that matter tennis pros customize their strings at a minimum.)

So I'm not entirely sure what the article really is aimed at, because there's a huge difference between fitting skis and boots and building a custom titanium bike frame to fit someone.
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Old 10-05-17, 03:13 PM
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I suppose it is too hard to change the height of a seat post and/or a stem.
If the rider is close to average proportions, this is true.

I have a 37.3" inseam, but I'm only 6'2". My brother has a 36" inseam, but he's 6'7". Some people will never fit on stock frames.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
If the rider is close to average proportions, this is true.

I have a 37.3" inseam, but I'm only 6'2". My brother has a 36" inseam, but he's 6'7". Some people will never fit on stock frames.
my wife is 5-10 she has 38" inseam, she's all legs.
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Old 10-05-17, 04:53 PM
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my wife is 5-10 she has 38" inseam, she's all legs.
I am 5' 10" and 28" inseams.

Humans are weird.
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Almost no one needs a made to measure frame these days. Custom frames were necessary 40 years ago when bikes came in three non-proportional sizes and stems came in one length. Today, all frames are proportional, there are thousands of geometries available off the shelf, frames are made in 1cm increments and you can easily further customize the position of all of the contact points with inexpensive off the shelf components.
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Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
my wife is 5-10 she has 38" inseam, she's all legs.
Does she have a sister?
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I suppose it is too hard to change the height of a seat post and/or a stem.
But then you won't have "that feeling of being in the bike rather than on it"
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Old 10-06-17, 10:53 AM
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I no longer sail but did spend a good part of my life both building sail boats and sailing. In the video link there is a large 100 foot custom racing trimaran at speed. In my sailing days I could spend hours mesmerized and watching the wake speed by much like staring into a fireplace. So I can watch this video and others just like it for hours. Most of these tris are French and there is lively racing of such boats in Europe. One scene shows the speedo at 40 knots which to me is almost unbelievable. One such trimaran crossed the Atlantic in under 4 days which is faster than a ocean liner.
I want one and if everyone will send me money totaling numerous millions of dollars, I can have it.
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I just skimmed the article, so maybe I missed something, but unless you're an near-elite level, customized gear isn't going to up your game. E.g., you'd be better off taking a few golf lessons or a few more hours on the practice range than spending that money customizing your gear.
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Old 10-06-17, 04:21 PM
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Hmmm, I own a Moots and an Alchemy
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Hmmm, I own a Moots and an Alchemy
Do you have an opening this week to look at a molar that's been bothering me lately?....
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
Funny, I would never had thought skiing would be on the list, but I did have a pair of boots back in my instructor days that a boot fitter spent a bit of time on.

Cycling......Yeah.
I've seen people on the side of a groomed trail, scraping wax off their skis to put a different wax on. Competitive racers have lots of pairs of skis and pick which ones to use on a given day based on snow conditions. Skiing is a gear sport, and an aerobic sport, a lot like road cycling.
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Originally Posted by Canuk1w1 View Post
A decent read but I reckon he's into promoting bespoke/boutique manufacturers rather than boosting performance. The majority of us can get away with off the rack kit, tweaked for our physiques. He doesn't qualify his point of view by admitting that the majority of performance is still conditioning and skill.
ANY UCI rider could jump on a Muffy and crush me over 50 to 100 miles.
ANY World Cup skier on rental skis would dust me on Kitzbuel (cries I probably wouldn't even go down the bloody thing).
Custom golf clubs? Might help me get under 100 more often (might...). But any tour pro would skin me with a set of bamboo shafted blades.
Don't get me wrong, custom kit is great but maybe only the final 5-10% of the result. There's still an awful lot of hard work that goes into excellence in any sport.
The above is true in most sports I suppose. But how is ice hockey not on the list while skiing is? There are intricacies to skates besides just the fit of the boot...e.g., length of the blade, curve of the blade, and variations in blade sharpening. Not to mention customized construction of the hockey stick. And each player's pads are (or can be) fitted to accommodate their comfort, and personal style of play.

Now...let's talk about custom equipment in America's Cup sailboat racing...

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I've seen people on the side of a groomed trail, scraping wax off their skis to put a different wax on. Competitive racers have lots of pairs of skis and pick which ones to use on a given day based on snow conditions. Skiing is a gear sport, and an aerobic sport, a lot like road cycling.
Yeah, but unless you're a top world cup skier, you're on stock stuff. I used to ski on a given manufacturers top of the line slalom ski, same with boots and bindings, but it was all stock stuff.

Like I said, I just didn't think about how much work went into my boots to get them right.

FWIW, I used to have a pair of rock skis, instructing skis, and my I'm going skiing skis.

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Originally Posted by wheelreason View Post
Do you have an opening this week to look at a molar that's been bothering me lately?....
Sorry, I'm not a dentist or a lawyer
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Custom can definitely "up your game" at the Cafe or on the internet.
Not so much when it comes to actually riding it.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
Custom frames were necessary 40 years ago when bikes came in three non-proportional sizes and stems came in one length. Today, all frames are proportional, there are thousands of geometries available off the shelf, frames are made in 1cm increments and you can easily further customize the position of all of the contact points with inexpensive off the shelf components.
Really? 40 years ago I was looking through the Nashbar catalog (called Bike Warehouse back then) to select the stem length that I wanted to go along with the 58 cm frame that I'd selected. AIRC I had at least as many available choices back then as I do now.
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Gear and equipment are clearly important in any sport. Much of it has to do with confidence and the mental side of the game. In tennis it may be the same racket but one just gives me more of a mental edge. Is a custom bat any better? Probably not but if it makes you feel different than...
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