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Old 11-14-17, 10:45 PM
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Looking for new wheels

OK I want to get a new set of training wheels. I would like wider rims. Around 24-25mm width at braking surface. So around 17mm internal width.
They need to have aluminum braking surface. Bonus if they are carbon in the middle.
Does such thing even exist? I looked at Fulcrum, Ritchey, Vision, and all carbon wheels have carbon braking surface. All aluminum wheels have 21-22 mm width.
Budget is under a 1000.

Any other suggestions?

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The dura ace c40 has those widths with aluminum brake track.

Not too far over your budget in the UK shops.

I have the narrower c24s and like them a lot.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest View Post
The dura ace c40 has those widths with aluminum brake track.

Not too far over your budget in the UK shops.

I have the narrower c24s and like them a lot.
Scratch that.

There's some funny business with the clincher version where shimano published the wrong specs.

It's still narrow like the c35.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest View Post
Scratch that.

There's some funny business with the clincher version where shimano published the wrong specs.

It's still narrow like the c35.
Oh well. Thanks for suggestion anyway.

Originally Posted by superdex View Post
Hmm, that would fit the bill... How is the durability of the rims?
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Hed Belgium Plus .... I have them laced to Chris King R45 hubs with Sapiem C-XRay spokes .... I'm using tubeless tyres on these and I'm well pleased

get the rims and get decent hubs/spokes. My suggestion is get tubeless ready rims. This alows you to use tubeless and/or clincher tyres
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
OK I want to get a new set of training wheels. I would like wider rims. Around 24-25mm width at braking surface. So around 17mm internal width.
They need to have aluminum braking surface. Bonus if they are carbon in the middle.
Does such thing even exist? I looked at Fulcrum, Ritchey, Vision, and all carbon wheels have carbon braking surface. All aluminum wheels have 21-22 mm width.
Budget is under a 1000.

Any other suggestions?
Perhaps Flo 60s?
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All aluminum wheels have 21-22 mm width.?
What? There are zillions of aluminum rims of every size and shape.

Velocity Quill mentioned above would be a good choice. I have a set of the A23 Pros. No complaints.
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Industry Nine i25 TL Classics are $900 srp, tubeless. 19mm internal, 23.5mm outer width. They have a lighter version too

You can build them direct from them with some custom options on their site if that appeals to you.

I got a new set for $599 on ebay, at this price i felt they were a steal.

Absolutely impeccable built wheel with amazing hubs. Actually like the Torch hubs better than the DuraAce ones on my C50's.

They look the part and roll the part of what you expect of an expensive clincher wheelset. I say this because i've seen many expensive wheelsets that don't look built any better than $200 Fulcrum 5's, which is quality budget wheelset in its own right.

Another nice set of alum lightweight clincher set ATM is the HED Ardennes Feather LT at $650 ($900 srp) at MBS

https://www.mybikeshop.com/collectio...-full-warranty

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OP, look for a used set of Hed Jets. They are essentially Hed Belgium rims with a carbon fairing.

They won't be light, but you should be able to find a decent set in your price range used.
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Iíll add another bump for HED. I picked up a pair of JET+ 50s from Performance Bike for $799 after a 20% off coupon. My understanding is that all of the JET+ are Ardennes+ rims with a carbon fairing of various sizes (40mm and up depending on model). Iím going to be looking for a set of Ardennes+ at some point in the future.

They work great if you want a tubeless setup or want to look at that in the future.
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I have Shimano RS81 C35s and got them for well under $1000. They aren't as wide (20.8mm) as you hoped for, but they do have an aluminum braking surface, but they are durable and weigh a tad over 1600g.
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Cool. Thanks for suggestions everyone.
What about Bontrager aeolus 5 comp? Anyone have experience with those?
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I’m not sure if you’re wedded to 24 - 25mm width for some reason (such as multi-set wheel swaps without brake readjustment), but if not, the American Classic Argent are category-leading aluminum wheels.

They’re tubeless ready, 22mm external, but 19.4mm wide internally. Rim depth is 30mm front and rear, and they’re laced with wide, aero spokes to killer hubs with 2:1 lacing in the rear and AC’s trick nipples. Weight is 1392gm. Cost is $900 direct from AC, taped and ready roll with a set of one of the best skewers in the biz. I see ModernBike selling them for $814 right now.

I’ve run a set since ‘13 (when they were $1.4k) and they’re impeccably reactive and fast. They were way out front spec-wise then, but are still probably the best alu wheelset on the market for those who want it all: build quality, lightweight, aero, wide, stiff, strong, and smartly designed. And you can pick up the phone to talk to real AC techs right here in Florida.

I’ve been wheel shopping for a build I’m working on, and if I don’t go carbon rims, I’ll go Argent again. The one feature I’d kind of like to see for Argent is a durable PVD ceramic oxide coating like Mavic’s Exalith or DT Swiss Oxic; it’s really just a fashion thing in my mind because I want the dark carbon fiber look but I don’t really want carbon brake track hassles, though the oxide coating is supposed to improve wet braking performance, which I see plenty of, and at 225lbs, can really appreciate!

Other wide wheels I think are cool are Boyd Altamont with ceramic coating, which look super cool, and if you’re lighter, the DT Swiss PR1400 DiCut Oxic. Industry i9 were mentioned upthread, and Fulcrum Racing Zero Nite and Campagnolo Shamal Mille squeak in there with 17mm bsw and brake track coatings. But for the stuff which really matters to me, AC Argents still offer more than other other wheelset.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Cool. Thanks for suggestions everyone.
What about Bontrager aeolus 5 comp? Anyone have experience with those?
I don't have that wheel, but I do have a set of Aura 5 TLRs, which are similar (aluminum braking surface, carbon faring) and I love them. I paid $680, but they've been on sale for a couple of months, so they may be hard to find. But the Aeolus 5 is probably just as nice, and I'm not sure what the actual difference is other than the Aura has straight-pull spokes and is normally like $1100 MSRP. Weight maybe? The Auras are like 1750g.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Iím not sure if youíre wedded to 24 - 25mm width for some reason (such as multi-set wheel swaps without brake readjustment), but if not, the American Classic Argent are category-leading aluminum wheels.

Theyíre tubeless ready, 22mm external, but 19.4mm wide internally. Rim depth is 30mm front and rear, and theyíre laced with wide, aero spokes to killer hubs with 2:1 lacing in the rear and ACís trick nipples. Weight is 1392gm. Cost is $900 direct from AC, taped and ready roll with a set of one of the best skewers in the biz. I see ModernBike selling them for $814 right now.

Iíve run a set since Ď13 (when they were $1.4k) and theyíre impeccably reactive and fast. They were way out front spec-wise then, but are still probably the best alu wheelset on the market for those who want it all: build quality, lightweight, aero, wide, stiff, strong, and smartly designed. And you can pick up the phone to talk to real AC techs right here in Florida.

Iíve been wheel shopping for a build Iím working on, and if I donít go carbon rims, Iíll go Argent again. The one feature Iíd kind of like to see for Argent is a durable PVD ceramic oxide coating like Mavicís Exalith or DT Swiss Oxic; itís really just a fashion thing in my mind because I want the dark carbon fiber look but I donít really want carbon brake track hassles, though the oxide coating is supposed to improve wet braking performance, which I see plenty of, and at 225lbs, can really appreciate!

Other wide wheels I think are cool are Boyd Altamont with ceramic coating, which look super cool, and if youíre lighter, the DT Swiss PR1400 DiCut Oxic. Industry i9 were mentioned upthread, and Fulcrum Racing Zero Nite and Campagnolo Shamal Mille squeak in there with 17mm bsw and brake track coatings. But for the stuff which really matters to me, AC Argents still offer more than other other wheelset.
Cool will check them out. The improved wet performance intrigues me. Main reason I want none-carbon brake surface. My Fulcrum Quatro wheels are borderline suicidal in the rain.
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Originally Posted by cydewaze View Post
I don't have that wheel, but I do have a set of Aura 5 TLRs, which are similar (aluminum braking surface, carbon faring) and I love them. I paid $680m but they've been on sale for a couple of months, so they may be hard to find. But the Aeolus 5 is probably just as nice, and I'm not sure what the actual difference is other than the Aura has straight-pull spokes and is normally like $1100 MSRP. Weight maybe? The Auras are like 1750g.
Awesome thanks.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Awesome thanks.
Just looked it up. Advertised weight for Aura 5: 1720g. Aeolus 5 Comp: 1860g

So, straight pull spokes vs j-bend and 140g difference.

This place still lists the Auras on sale, and for a tiny bit less than the Aeolus: https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.co...s-286000-1.htm

But (like me) you have to get the white decals.
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Just looked it up. Advertised weight for Aura 5: 1720g. Aeolus 5 Comp: 1860g

So, straight pull spokes vs j-bend and 140g difference.

This place still lists the Auras on sale, and for a tiny bit less than the Aeolus: https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.co...s-286000-1.htm

But (like me) you have to get the white decals.
Thanks. Scored a set from teammate on the cheap.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Thanks. Scored a set from teammate on the cheap.
Nice! Let us know how you like them once you get them.
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So far I like them. Haven't tried them in a wet, but in a dry they have great stopping power. Also roll well and quite comfortable and seems to be stable with cross wind. They are on heavy side, but for training wheels they are good.
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I'm always hoping for an updated comparison test to have been published before shopping among current wheel offerings.


I've seen tests of the taller-section wheels where their aerodynamic values were compared, and would not pay anywhere near full price for any tall-section wheels without this sort of knowledge.


Can anyone point to any recent, good tests of the more "aero" wheels?


Years ago there was even a test that included some lower-profile wheels that had big aero differences even among them, which was valuable information to have.


Based on several factors I have recommended the RS81 C-35 Shimano wheels to others, some of whose previous wheels had suffered durability problems. The C35's have a seemingly dated 15mm inner width that nevertheless has worked well with 23 and 25mm tires for a very long time.
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Look at Mavic Ksyrium Elite USD at Merlin Cycles, I order a set yesterday good price and they come with tires
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