Wspsux

That sounds kinky hahaha

Nickolassc

I have the Zefal HPX. I don't use it, it never seems to be able get the chuck to seat well enough to inflate the tire enough to get it up to pressure. I've had to walk home more than a couple times...Also no gauge. I would instantly buy a frame pump that had a flexible tube and a pressure gage, I guess I could go buy an intermediate tube with a gage to run between the tire valve and the pump?

Right now I run a topeak road morph, which is ugly...The PRO mini bike floor pump is close, but not quite there.

rpenmanparker 

When I had my 531 frame repainted a couple of years ago, I had the pump peg removed. CO2 in the jersey pocket is how I roll. Pump peg is no longer needed.

Sullalto

What does it look like with a pump?

joesch

Beautiful 1985 Pinarello Trevisio frame !
I have seen a similar Joe Bell paint job, who did your frame ?
I have a Joe Bell painted Masi with braze-ons shift cable adjusters, pump peg, chain hanger, (2) water bottles.

rosefarts

In college, I had a roommate who defensively hit several dogs with his frame pump. It always worked.

What I like about them is that they are big enough that you can get away without owning a floor pump. They are durable. And as previously discussed, look great on steel bikes, especially pre 1990 or so.

I use the specialized mini pump that is only a squosh larger than a superflate, it'll do a road tire no prob.

With my tubeless conversion, I'm going to start daring myself to ride with no pump....

Metis

I use a newer style Zefal pump on my 2013 Allez without any straps or pegs. The compression spring is more than enough to keep it in place despite bumps and jumps. It looks a bit strange with the sloping top tube but it is super secure:

ThermionicScott 

I have 3 Bianchis with pump pegs at the rear of the head tube, but ironically, I soon realized that I didn't like having the pump under the top tube (for the same reason as in post #2). So all of those pump pegs go unused while my pump is mounted along the seat tube.

Drew Eckhardt 

Hardly.

I can't I buy a mini-pump that will reach 90psi in a practical 90 strokes.

The Leyzne Road Drive is the best I'm aware of taking a 23mm tire to 70-80 psi in 200 strokes. While far better than competing designs which reach just 40-50 psi with that effort, it still takes over 100% more.

I can't buy a compact, easy to stow CO2 system that'll take care of the 9 flats possible with two spare tubes and a large Rema patch kit.

Compact frames with sloping top tubes leaving little room for extras inside the main triangle may preclude using full-size frame pumps, although lots of middle age guys still ride conventional frames like we did 20 years ago.

Drew Eckhardt 

They discontinued it and don't have replacement chuck grommets.

rpenmanparker 

The likelihood of how many flats you may expect is not dependent upon how many unnecessary patches you carry. No matter how much you over prepare, you are not likely to ever need more than three CO2 cartridges...ever. And if you did, well that is why they invented cell phones...and thumbs.

rpenmanparker 

The odd appearance of the pump is more than balanced by the slip-slidey downward pointing saddle. You really need to work on your bike fit. No one with the bike contact points properly positioned needs a saddle pointed down like that.

rosefarts

Drew, if you're getting that many flats, maybe try some Stans or Slime. Maybe walking? Just about anything is less frustrating than that many of flats in a day.

bbattle

The Pinarello was painted by a Dr. Deltron, former member of BikeForums. Haven't seen him online in many years.

I have a John Howard frame made by Dave Tesch that was supposedly painted by Joe Bell.

Drew Eckhardt 

In valleys with no services for 50 miles cell phones don't work and you can ride hours without being passed by a car.

Asking for a ride 50-100 miles from home, before sunrise, or long after sunset would be a huge imposition.

!@#$% tiny pieces of tire wire can elude detection and re-puncture tubes leading to multiple flats, sometimes slow enough you can get by with periodic re-inflation if you don't run out of CO2 cartridges.

Other riders also tend to puncture in the same places with some irresponsibly neglecting to bring supplies. I once saw 4 or 5 who flatted simultaneously.

Drew Eckhardt 

Usually it's just one at a time, apart from the three slow leaks from a tiny piece of tire wire I could never find. Submerging the tubes in water had the tiniest bubble form in the same spot after minutes, but no amount of flexing the tire in that area wearing a bright headlamp revealed it. I gave up and threw out the tire.

Obviously the potential exists, and it would really suck to repeat that up to 100 miles from home without an endless air supply.

joesch

I agree that its a PIA to get descent psi with a mini-pump, I really need a floor model to get my tires to happy pressure. The Leyzne is the best choice and below is a good comparison review.

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topic...est-frame-pump

Metis

I'm glad someone else thinks the frame pump looks okay on a modern bike. I gave up with the mini pump, those things are a total joke.

And you're right, the saddle does look pretty tilted. I think the picture angle and the siding makes it look a little worst than it is!

chaadster

I actually think it looks kind of cool! I also think the saddle angle looks unrideable, but your heiny, not mine!

There are some good mini-pumps out there out I think, so unless you've tried 'em all, I wouldn't write off the whole category. I think the medium Lezyne Road Drive is darn impressive.

I'm confused by your pics though; did you remove a cage later in the bike's life? The rims in the sideview look worn at the brake track, and there is only one cage, but the other pic has two and the tracks are not as worn, so I presume it's earlier.

Metis

Just to make sure I answered OPs question, I'm using the Zefal HPX and it doesn't require any frame pegs. Mine has two contact points and holds in nicely with the big spring. I guess the worst case scenario is you add some pegs and end up grinding them down later - but you probably don't want to be hacking at your bike frame!

First pic is a few weeks older after a dirty ride. The back bottle cage actually got worn out at the mounting holes and got too loose to mount. For races I usually take off the mini pump mount that attaches on the back bottle cage and after 25+ removals this year the plastic on the cage finally wore down; Another reason I went to the frame pump.

You guys have me concerned about this saddle angle... the Specialized power has a natural uptick at the back:



Here's my setup in a leveled picture without the background noise:

chaadster

Don't worry about it! If it works for you, that's what matters.

Nachoman

20171221_110132_resized by Nacho Neal, on Flickr
yes!

fietsbob

I still have a Silca Impero with a Campagnolo pump head.. but yea the velcro keeper helps keep it there.

Zefal made a plastic hose clamp like pump peg you added on yourself..





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rpenmanparker 

First, why is the wall now crooked? Second that saddle is way more down pointing than it should be to have the front half level. The front half is seriously down pointing. And some folks ridensuch saddles with a little trough in the middle, i.e. with the front slightly up. You don’t assume the rails are supposed to be horizontal. That makes the saddle point down.

danimal92sport

Able to take your concerns over his bike fit to PM?

Dan