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KoolStop Pads, which color?

Old 02-20-18, 11:38 AM
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KoolStop Pads, which color?

Hey All,

I have a CAAD 10 105, which I find to be an excellent bike. It came with Tektro brakes rather than 105 however. Until recently I have always been satisfied with the brakes, but during a descent yesterday I found them to be less effective than I had hoped for. In an idea world I might upgrade to 105 calipers to match the rest of the bike, however, I would prefer to save that money for the time being. I have heard that switching the tektro pads for koolstop dura2 inserts provides a good upgrade. Have you found this to be the case? I was going to buy a set of the black koolstops, but noticed the salmon get a lot of love. I live in the Bay Area and try to not ride in the rain (it happens so infrequently I can be choosy) so I don't think I need the salmon, but they get so much love I wanted to ask for opinions. How do they compare in dry conditions to the black?
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Old 02-20-18, 11:51 AM
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dual compound salmon/black works well, the salmon is great even in dry weather they just wear faster
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Kool Stop Salmon pads work great in general.

Another pad I'd strongly recommend is the Shimano R55C4.
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Old 02-20-18, 03:35 PM
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I have black Kool Stop refill pads on one hybrid with linear pull V-brakes, salmon Kool Stop Eagle 2's on the other with cantilever brakes. Can't say I notice any difference, wet or dry. I try to avoid riding in rain but haven't noticed any difference between the pads when I have ridden in rain. Both types seem fine.

For that matter, Jagwire black pads work great too. I use Jagwire thinline on the front of one hybrid to allow extra clearance for the fatter than spec tires.

My '89 road bike still has the original Suntour black pads. They work fine wet or dry, which surprises me. Normally I'd expect such old pads to be dry and useless but these things are still good. When I've been caught in the rain on the road bike I worried a bit about my slick tires, but not the brakes -- as rim brakes go. They're always tricky in the rain. Helps to remember to use the brakes lightly fairly often to squeegee the rims and pads.
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Pad color must match jersey.
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Pad color must match jersey.
Haha, I must have missed that rule.
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Originally Posted by formula bike View Post
Hey All,

I have a CAAD 10 105, which I find to be an excellent bike. It came with Tektro brakes rather than 105 however. Until recently I have always been satisfied with the brakes, but during a descent yesterday I found them to be less effective than I had hoped for. In an idea world I might upgrade to 105 calipers to match the rest of the bike, however, I would prefer to save that money for the time being. I have heard that switching the tektro pads for koolstop dura2 inserts provides a good upgrade. Have you found this to be the case? I was going to buy a set of the black koolstops, but noticed the salmon get a lot of love. I live in the Bay Area and try to not ride in the rain (it happens so infrequently I can be choosy) so I don't think I need the salmon, but they get so much love I wanted to ask for opinions. How do they compare in dry conditions to the black?
KoolStop Salmon- wet or dry, I have used them for years and find them very good. ONLY on alloy brake tracks, NOT Carbon.
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Originally Posted by formula bike View Post
Hey All,

I have a CAAD 10 105, which I find to be an excellent bike. It came with Tektro brakes rather than 105 however. Until recently I have always been satisfied with the brakes, but during a descent yesterday I found them to be less effective than I had hoped for. In an idea world I might upgrade to 105 calipers to match the rest of the bike, however, I would prefer to save that money for the time being.
FYI, if you end up getting a new brakeset some day, by most accounts, the extra approx. $15 for Ultegra 6800 over the 105, is money well spent.
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KoolStop pads should be just like shorts/bibs: black

Then again, I have no idea what rain is.
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I have only used black, both dry and wet. They grip well in the wet too. Very satisfied with them on my cargo bike.
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Originally Posted by formula bike View Post
Hey All,

I have a CAAD 10 105, which I find to be an excellent bike. It came with Tektro brakes rather than 105 however. Until recently I have always been satisfied with the brakes, but during a descent yesterday I found them to be less effective than I had hoped for. In an idea world I might upgrade to 105 calipers to match the rest of the bike, however, I would prefer to save that money for the time being. I have heard that switching the tektro pads for koolstop dura2 inserts provides a good upgrade. Have you found this to be the case? I was going to buy a set of the black koolstops, but noticed the salmon get a lot of love. I live in the Bay Area and try to not ride in the rain (it happens so infrequently I can be choosy) so I don't think I need the salmon, but they get so much love I wanted to ask for opinions. How do they compare in dry conditions to the black?
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dual compound salmon/black works well, the salmon is great even in dry weather they just wear faster
Agreed.
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I have koolstop salmons on many of my bikes, but use swissstop green on my mostly fair-weather bikes.
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Another vote for Salmon Pads. You will feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post

Then again, I have no idea what rain is.
I live in NorCal, and I approve this message...
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I've used black for the longest time, and I installed the dual salmon/black last pad change. Don't really notice much change, but in general, I much prefer Kool Stop pads over Shimano. Shimano pads seem to collect/cause more aluminum rim shards, and felt "gritty" when braking. The Kool Stops feel much softer, yet very grippy. They may wear down faster, but who cares, brakes are like $5/pair...
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Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
I've used black for the longest time, and I installed the dual salmon/black last pad change. Don't really notice much change, but in general, I much prefer Kool Stop pads over Shimano. Shimano pads seem to collect/cause more aluminum rim shards, and felt "gritty" when braking. The Kool Stops feel much softer, yet very grippy. They may wear down faster, but who cares, brakes are like $5/pair...
have you used any of the new pads? They don't seem to do this anymore and I haven't felt a need to replace them right away with koolstops like I used to, at least on my 6800 calipers.
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
have you used any of the new pads? They don't seem to do this anymore and I haven't felt a need to replace them right away with koolstops like I used to, at least on my 6800 calipers.
Funny you ask I just installed an upgrade kit on one of my bikes, with 6800 brakes. I did notice on my first ride yesterday that they were softer. Didn't think much of it, but if that's a new pad formula from Shimano, then that's good news, because their previous pads were bad.
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Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
Funny you ask I just installed an upgrade kit on one of my bikes, with 6800 brakes. I did notice on my first ride yesterday that they were softer. Didn't think much of it, but if that's a new pad formula from Shimano, then that's good news, because their previous pads were bad.
Those are the R55C4 pads I mentioned above. A big leap over their previous stuff.
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
Those are the R55C4 pads I mentioned above. A big leap over their previous stuff.
Ah ok, I've been on Koolstops for several years now, so I guess I didn't know they improved the pad.
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For alu rims, my favorites are Swissstop blue pads (BXP) for calipers, green (GHP 2) for V-brakes.
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