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Old 02-20-18, 01:19 PM
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2 months out from 40th bday bike. Enjoying window shopping. Got any to add?

I turn the big 4-0 in a couple months. I have a budget of 3000-3500 for a new bike for my birthday, which is much more than I have ever had to spend before. Instead of finding that one way I can get one better thing on my budget builds, all of a sudden there are tons of ways to get awesomeness! Seems like every builder has something shiny in that price range. I am thoroughly enjoying wading through all the options. Any $$$ left over goes to nice stuff like a new Garmin, a power meter if I can go really under budget, upgraded fit/finish like carbon bottle holders/garmin mounts/etc.


So, heres my top three leaders of the pack for the moment. I would LOVE some opinions, and even more options!


I am looking for a relatively racy geometry, so no super sloping top tubes. Looking for full carbon (as you can see, I have the steel and aluminum bikes covered already!) Looking for Ultegra 8000 at a minimum. Don't really care about Di2, but not opposed either. Would prefer rim brakes over disc. Would prefer a decent wheelset over Mavic Aksiums (which are on one of these, and will be rapidly replaced.)


Top three contenders, all 2018 new models:


Trek Emonda SL6 Pro (ultegra mech, carbon clinchers, boring paint, highest price point. I can get about 5% off full retail, making this the most expensive option at just short of 3500.)


Orbea Orca M20 (LOVE the orange color option. Ultegra 8000. Lowest price point coming in around 2600, Carbon wheels but kinda crappy carbon wheels.)


Cannondale SuperSix Evo Di2 (this one is a deal from my regular LBS, coming in at 2950, way under cost, but wheels suck and would have to be replaced immediately.)


Ruled out - Fuji. Couple of friends had bad experiences with frame warrenty, I don't trust them. Mekk. Found a great deal online for an older model, just can't find out much about them and just too wary. BikesDirect - not going off brand for my bday bike.


What are your thoughts on my top three, and what smaller/niche/oddball bikes should I be looking at in that price range?

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go with the Orca
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Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0 Di2
$3500
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road/en...l-disc-8-0-di2

Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0 (Non Di2)
$2700
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road/en...cf-sl-disc-8-0

You can also look at the Aeroad / Ultimate options that are similarly configured/priced. Depends on your geo choices


Edit: Offered these up as I'm looking at the Endurace CF SL/SLX Disc 8.0 Di2 for my 50th b-day present to myself.

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I considered Canyon, still am really but not the endurance model. I am comfy doing my own wrenching, but since I have a good relationship with 2 LBSs I was looking there first since I can get free labor, and kinda want to see the rewards from years of being a good customer. Also, I'm not in love with how the Canyon bikes look, TBH, though the blue Ultimate CF Disc is ok. Not keen on Disc brakes, simply because I don't know how to service them at home or on the road, and all my other wheels are rim brake and therefore useless. Haven't eliminated it, but I don't think it's likely.


Cmon, there's gotta be some more not huge brands I just haven't looked at. Something outside of the Giant/Caad/trek/orbea/felt/specialized big boys, right? Something I'm missing?
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Focus Izalco, BMC SLR02, Pinarello GAN, Ridley Helium....just throwing it out there.
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Those are all pretty nice bikes! The orca does have the nicest paint job, although the cannondale is probably the best value.
In the same range, you could consider the ridley helium, focus ixalco race and cervelo r3 although they will likely come with aksuims or equivalent wheels.

Personally, I'd go for this one, but I'm happy with giant.
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Not keen on Disc brakes, simply because I don't know how to service them at home or on the road
Once they're set up, there's really not much to do, and what little there is is pretty simple; replacing pads is a two-minute affair, as is re-centering the calipers.
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That Giant TCR is specced pretty darn well for the price. I think that's getting added to the list to test drive! Somehow I had missed that particular one when I poked around their line.


I had not considered Ridley at all. Exactly what I was looking for here, I will go check out their lineup and the Helium in particular. They deal with Performance Bike in my area, not the actual local guys, but at least I can get a test ride pretty easy.


Does Focus deal in the US? I honestly don't think I've ever seen one on the road. I know JACK about them. More pike porn to look through!


BMC and Pinarello I always figured were out of my league cost wise. I know my favorite LBS is a BMC dealer so that could work in it's favor. Another one to check out.
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Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
I turn the big 4-0 in a couple months. I have a budget of 3000-3500 for a new bike for my birthday, which is much more than I have ever had to spend before. Instead of finding that one way I can get one better thing on my budget builds, all of a sudden there are tons of ways to get awesomeness! Seems like every builder has something shiny in that price range. I am thoroughly enjoying wading through all the options. Any $$$ left over goes to nice stuff like a new Garmin, a power meter if I can go really under budget, upgraded fit/finish like carbon bottle holders/garmin mounts/etc.


So, heres my top three leaders of the pack for the moment. I would LOVE some opinions, and even more options!


I am looking for a relatively racy geometry, so no super sloping top tubes. Looking for full carbon (as you can see, I have the steel and aluminum bikes covered already!) Looking for Ultegra 8000 at a minimum. Don't really care about Di2, but not opposed either. Would prefer rim brakes over disc. Would prefer a decent wheelset over Mavic Aksiums (which are on one of these, and will be rapidly replaced.)


Top three contenders, all 2018 new models:


Trek Emonda SL6 Pro (ultegra mech, carbon clinchers, boring paint, highest price point. I can get about 5% off full retail, making this the most expensive option at just short of 3500.)


Orbea Orca M20 (LOVE the orange color option. Ultegra 8000. Lowest price point coming in around 2600, Carbon wheels but kinda crappy carbon wheels.)


Cannondale SuperSix Evo Di2 (this one is a deal from my regular LBS, coming in at 2950, way under cost, but wheels suck and would have to be replaced immediately.)


Ruled out - Fuji. Couple of friends had bad experiences with frame warrenty, I don't trust them. Mekk. Found a great deal online for an older model, just can't find out much about them and just too wary. BikesDirect - not going off brand for my bday bike.


What are your thoughts on my top three, and what smaller/niche/oddball bikes should I be looking at in that price range?
Cdale is way to go Get wheels in few months save up
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I vote Orca as well. I absolutely LOVE my Orbea, great bike.
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Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post

Ruled out - Fuji. Couple of friends had bad experiences with frame warrenty, I don't trust them. Mekk. Found a great deal online for an older model, just can't find out much about them and just too wary. BikesDirect - not going off brand for my bday bike.


What are your thoughts on my top three, and what smaller/niche/oddball bikes should I be looking at in that price range?
Can you elaborate about the Fuji warranty issues? You should think carefully about getting such racy geometries. I found the 40s to be my peak with respect to work hours and I could only fit in long rides.
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Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
I turn the big 4-0 in a couple months.

what smaller/niche/oddball bikes should I be looking at in that price range?
I'm ~6 months behind you on the 40th B-day. I guess I jumped the gun with building my bike! I am building new wheels for it (soon, once the rims arrives from China) but that's more of a weight-loss present. I'll need to control myself for my actual b-day, I guess. Probably not.

Anyway, have you considered an open mold carbon frame and custom build out? Tons of options, with many of the vendors being willing to paint however you desire for very little added cost, leaving a lot of budget for fancy finishing kit, wheels, etc. I spent more than most on my build but I wanted Campagnolo Chorus, and discs, and tubulars, and carbon aero handlebars, and custom finished hubs, etc. My bike still came in under your budget.
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Orca. Amazing bike, and not the same old, same old.

Nothing against Trek or Canondale, i've owned a bike from each in the past and even bought my son a Trek mtb...but everyone has one.

I'm enjoying different flavor roadies these days.

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Can you elaborate about the Fuji warranty issues? You should think carefully about getting such racy geometries. I found the 40s to be my peak with respect to work hours and I could only fit in long rides.
Two friends, unrelated bikes. One had a crack in his head tube, bike never crashed. Fuji initially said they would warranty the frame. 6 months later, no new frame, and they said no, it was a crash related crack and they would not do it. Total BS.


Other one had a fork blade break during a ride, bike less than 6 months old, never laid down or crashed. I know intellectually that could happen with any brand, but two close friends, same brand, enough for me to not consider it for future purchase.
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
I'm ~6 months behind you on the 40th B-day. I guess I jumped the gun with building my bike! I am building new wheels for it (soon, once the rims arrives from China) but that's more of a weight-loss present. I'll need to control myself for my actual b-day, I guess. Probably not.

Anyway, have you considered an open mold carbon frame and custom build out? Tons of options, with many of the vendors being willing to paint however you desire for very little added cost, leaving a lot of budget for fancy finishing kit, wheels, etc. I spent more than most on my build but I wanted Campagnolo Chorus, and discs, and tubulars, and carbon aero handlebars, and custom finished hubs, etc. My bike still came in under your budget.
Didn't scare you to buy totally off brand? I may do this in the future for a gravel bike, but I think I want something with a little more credibility and even social cachet than a no name frame. Nothing against the idea, really, I mean it, but this bike is supposed to be as close as I can get to my dream bike.
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No love for the Trek it seems. Multiple votes for the Orbea and Cdale though. Interesting indeed!
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No love for the Trek it seems. Multiple votes for the Orbea and Cdale though. Interesting indeed!
None of them stir my loins, but out of the three, I'd choose the Trek - it's a good turn-key option, one that wouldn't leave me wanting to swap out anything significant. Cannondales have never really appealed to me, and while the Di2 would be awesome, I'd feel obligated to drop another $1000 on wheels. Love the colors on the Orbea, but... meh.
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None of them stir my loins, but out of the three, I'd choose the Trek - it's a good turn-key option, one that wouldn't leave me wanting to swap out anything significant. Cannondales have never really appealed to me, and while the Di2 would be awesome, I'd feel obligated to drop another $1000 on wheels. Love the colors on the Orbea, but... meh.

So what would you be looking at in that price range?
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So what would you be looking at in that price range?
Something with discs.
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Cmon, there's gotta be some more not huge brands I just haven't looked at. Something outside of the Giant/Caad/trek/orbea/felt/specialized big boys, right? Something I'm missing?
You could have fun configuring a Ribble SL perhaps?
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sl/build/
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