Originally Posted by Kontact (Post 20187363)

Lemond's recommendation works great - if you have average proportions. Your friends torso is 3" longer than yours, but I'm willing to bet that he isn't using a stem 7cm longer than you are. Most people with his proportions would be better off on a frame that has a little less standover but a reasonable amount of reach. And he has the reach of someone closer to 6'3". That's why the best compromise is to spread the problem between seat tube and top tube rather than take someone with a 6'3" person's torso and put them on a bike with a 5'8" persons reach.

Originally Posted by Kontact (Post 20187363)

Lemond's recommendation works great - if you have average proportions. Your friends torso is 3" longer than yours, but I'm willing to bet that he isn't using a stem 7cm longer than you are. Most people with his proportions would be better off on a frame that has a little less standover but a reasonable amount of reach. And he has the reach of someone closer to 6'3". That's why the best compromise is to spread the problem between seat tube and top tube rather than take someone with a 6'3" person's torso and put them on a bike with a 5'8" persons reach.

Originally Posted by 69chevy (Post 20194797)

Or his friend has a longer neck, or taller head.

Originally Posted by 69chevy (Post 20194797)

Or his friend has a longer neck, or taller head.

Originally Posted by Kontact (Post 20194975)

A head that is three inches taller.

Originally Posted by Kapusta (Post 20195100)

Big hair.

Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 20194791)

Do you really want to know? ;) Because we're bored and like to answer rhetorical questions? As prompted, I was just saying that mere reassurance is a weak substitute for advice. Not implying anything contrary to the good points you make.

Originally Posted by Kontact (Post 20194975)

A head that is three inches taller.