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Colnago and Ultegra

Old 02-24-18, 05:23 PM
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Aesthetically, the Campy is far better looking than current Shimano.
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Old 02-24-18, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
A bit much to call Record a Ferrari and Ultegra a Ford.
I think he’s right. The Ferrari being the good looking, massively overpriced one that’s always broken, and the Ford being the one that is tough, priced fairly and one of the best selling in America.
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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27 View Post
I think he’s right. The Ferrari being the good looking, massively overpriced one that’s always broken, and the Ford being the one that is tough, priced fairly and one of the best selling in America.
Over 80k miles on my first set of Campy shifters and never had a problem other than changing out old cables a couple of times. Funny that you pick the brand known for, “found on road dead”, “fixed or repaired daily”, “F’d over rebuilt dodge”, and “At least they circled the problem”, in this comparison as the dependable one.
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Well,I have the CX1 with Ultegra and Chinese wheels and I'm quite happy with it!
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Old 02-25-18, 10:26 AM
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My Colnago has 105 and as horrific as that may sound to some, it gotten me down the road just fine for 5 years.
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Old 02-25-18, 10:33 AM
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Old 02-25-18, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr View Post
Over 80k miles on my first set of Campy shifters and never had a problem other than changing out old cables a couple of times. Funny that you pick the brand known for, “found on road dead”, “fixed or repaired daily”, “F’d over rebuilt dodge”, and “At least they circled the problem”, in this comparison as the dependable one.
A Ford F150 is definitely more dependable than any Ferrari. Shall we let sales records do the talking? Please compare sales figures for F150 vs any Ferrari, and figures for Shimano Ultegra vs. Campy anything. I’d think that if either of those didn’t work well, they probably wouldn’t be very successful, but they are both VERY successful.
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Old 02-25-18, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27 View Post
A Ford F150 is definitely more dependable than any Ferrari. Shall we let sales records do the talking? Please compare sales figures for F150 vs any Ferrari, and figures for Shimano Ultegra vs. Campy anything. I’d think that if either of those didn’t work well, they probably wouldn’t be very successful, but they are both VERY successful.
Why don’t you petition all the Ferrari owners you know and ask if they would trade theirs in for a F150?
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Old 02-25-18, 08:54 PM
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I can definitely think of a lot of F150 owners who would rather own an F150 than a Ferrari.
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Old 02-25-18, 08:56 PM
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I can also definitely think of a couple of Ferrari owners who at this point probably WOULD rather have an F150 than a Ferrari too, haha
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If we're going to talk about Ford and Ferrari, how can we ignore the GT40, Le Mans 1-2-3, etc?

Anyway, getting back to the subject, I was GCNing just now and happened to come across this video -


Yeah, Johan Museuuw's Colnago C40 with Dura Ace.
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Old 02-26-18, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
A bit much to call Record a Ferrari and Ultegra a Ford.
Maybe he meant Ford GT (he didn't, but should have).
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Old 02-26-18, 11:34 AM
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The analogies are getting dumber by the second.
-The Campy gearset isn't going to net you performance gains like switching from an F150 to a Ferrari would.
-The Campy vs Shimano = Ford vs Ferrari doesn't make sense in any capacity such as reliability, performance differences or brand perception.

I know folks with Porsche's, Ferrari's, Buggatti's...you name it. They actually like Ford's. But if you can't afford those marks, trash Ford I guess. It must make you look cool.
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Old 02-26-18, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yarbrough462 View Post
I am a long way from an expert on any of this. All I can tell you is that the pedals shafts on my other bikes are much smaller than the one on the Colnago...
The groupset on your bike looks like 11 speed Record, and the pedal spindles look perfectly normal. Have you tried to actually remove the pedals and compare them to the other ones you have?
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
The groupset on your bike looks like 11 speed Record, and the pedal spindles look perfectly normal. Have you tried to actually remove the pedals and compare them to the other ones you have?
Yep. The spindles are bigger on the Colnago. The pedals off of it would not fit my wife's new Cannondale. They were too large for the crank. It is also definitely a 10 speed cassette.

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Old 02-27-18, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
The groupset on your bike looks like 11 speed Record, and the pedal spindles look perfectly normal. Have you tried to actually remove the pedals and compare them to the other ones you have?
The rear mech looks like 10sp Record and the levers may be lower grade than Record in which case they could be 10 sp but the newer shape.
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^ I stand corrected, thanks.

Originally Posted by yarbrough462 View Post
Yep. The spindles are bigger on the Colnago. The pedals off of it would not fit my wife's new Cannondale. They were too large for the crank.
That is extremely unusual. Would you mind sharing some photos of the two different spindle sizes, for educational purposes?
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
^ I stand corrected, thanks.


That is extremely unusual. Would you mind sharing some photos of the two different spindle sizes, for educational purposes?




I'll try to get some tonight. Do the older Campy set ups have different sized spindles? I ask because you said that the Record groupsets changed to 11 speed in 2008. That means this set is not factory. I believe that this bike came stock with Ultegra (from reading online anyway...).


https://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...2-0-first-ride


https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...bike-11-43089/

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I don't think they did. It would have to be a custom modification of the crankset as well as custom pedals.
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Back to the original question. Sort off...So, is this frameset worth putting any money in to? I know I won't get it back if I sell it but that isn't really a concern. Is the carbon decent? Would I be better off (end up with a better bike) just buying a Trek SL 5 or the like? In the end, I may ride this bike more than my primary since it is easy for me to leave in the day (I can take a 1.5 hour lunch for working out) if I want and not so easy to get out of the house at night. Family obligations and all...
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Originally Posted by yarbrough462 View Post
Back to the original question. Sort off...So, is this frameset worth putting any money in to? I know I won't get it back if I sell it but that isn't really a concern. Is the carbon decent? Would I be better off (end up with a better bike) just buying a Trek SL 5 or the like? In the end, I may ride this bike more than my primary since it is easy for me to leave in the day (I can take a 1.5 hour lunch for working out) if I want and not so easy to get out of the house at night. Family obligations and all...
I'd ride it as is for a while. If you like the ride and the fit, then go ahead and put some money into it.
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You would think so based on what people here are saying
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
I don't think they did. It would have to be a custom modification of the crankset as well as custom pedals.
I am far from an expert on all things Campy, but I would think any crank from Campy especially with carbon arms, would have standard pedals. I’d really like to know measurements on these pedals.
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Yep, pictures and more details on the difference in the pedals. Very curious as to where you got a bike with different size holes in the cranks for pedals unless someone put an asatbula or such in them.

The Ford, Ferrari thing is getting tiring. It's subjective as to what is better. Depends on individual tastes.
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