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Does Zwifting make you a faster rider or riding make you a faster Zwifter?

Old 03-15-18, 06:42 AM
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Does Zwifting make you a faster rider or riding make you a faster Zwifter?

Zwift, a verb, a noun, the English language lexicon.
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Old 03-15-18, 06:49 AM
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Depends.
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Old 03-15-18, 07:11 AM
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there's nothing magical about zwift that makes one faster, it's about the work someone puts in. if zwift motivates people to ride more or in different ways, great. I use zwift but mainly as a visual thing, as I prefer trainerroad's workouts and have it control my trainer. I feel I'm faster using trainerroad, but it's because I'm doing structured training and working on different areas of power. All these smart tools, apps, etc. work as long as it motivates the individual to keep riding and push themselves
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Old 03-15-18, 07:12 AM
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I've found it's helped me on the road, reason being is in Zwift you are always pedaling and I seem to get a better continuous workout than riding around my busy city. The power and road feel seems real enough to me with a smart trainer.
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I think it helps some.

That said, I have been doing "group" rides with some friends on Zwift, and I seem to get dropped sometimes. I don't seem have that problem with them on the road.

So it's not the same, but obviously riding on Zwift is likely more interesting/less boring than a trainer that's not interactive.
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Depends.
That's the correct answer to 90% of BF questions.
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I don't know it made me a better rider persay but it did make my winter fall off I was getting from lack of riding like I used to get seem non-existent. Spring season just starting here and I am as strong as I was last fall because of I feel my using Zwift. I just found Zwift engaging and was easy to get me to ride indoors.


So for me its a YES.
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Old 03-15-18, 08:35 AM
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Zwifting makes me faster on the road. I don't have a PM, so the only way (other than HR and "feel") that I can do structured intervals is using their zPower estimates. It may not be an accurate number, but it is consistent as my trainer and sensors don't change, so if I can increase my "zFTP" through hard workouts, then my real FTP has also increased.

I also tend to push myself harder on the trainer so I can get more work done in less time, so it's more efficient in that sense.
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Old 03-15-18, 09:11 AM
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Zwifting makes you zwifter.
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Old 03-15-18, 10:08 AM
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I've used Trainerroad, Zwift by itself, and now Zwift with Today's Plan. From my experience you get out what you put in, if you're doing fast Zwift century's, A/B races, structured interval training on multi week plans, you will get hella faster.

However, if you use it for light calorie burn, drafting in group rides, generally sub-maximal efforts, it can still improve your ability to sustain a cadence for many hours, but don't expect a vast improvement in speed or power on the actual tarmac. You may find; though, that even Zwifting occasionally at a low pace over the winter months will help keep some of the fitness you accumulated from summer/Fall, meaning you won't have gotten "faster" but instead wouldn't have lost much speed come Spring.
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Judging from a friend's results, Zwift sure doesn't hurt. He needed a break from saddle sores and the winter weather and flu, so he mostly Zwifted all winter, using on of those minimalist saddles that's only for the sit bones, no nose, etc.

Looking at his recent Strava times on the real road again now that spring has sprung, he's killing it. KOM'd a couple of difficult climbs last week. Some wind assist but still quite an accomplishment. Looks like his averages on familiar routes are a little faster overall too. Too fast for me. He'd need to dial it way back if we rode together.
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I've been either on Zwift or the Sufferfest all winter and it has certainly made me a faster/stronger rider outdoors. I ride hard on some days, easier on others, I vary the workouts between speed drills, climbing, endurance, threshold, sweet spot, whatever and all of the variations in the Sufferfest. They are all contributing to legs that bulge like I've never seen myself. I'm 63 and feel like a 20 year old on the road, although I'm sure I still wouldn't win any races. I just with the weather would change so I could go outside more and longer.
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Helps you ride at a harder, steadier pace on the road. Doesn't help you when someone attacks and you get dropped because you haven't done much actual hard, standing pedaling. Unless you do. Then maybe it helps.
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Old 03-16-18, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post

That said, I have been doing "group" rides with some friends on Zwift, and I seem to get dropped sometimes. I don't seem have that problem with them on the road.

Are your friends doing "electronic doping?" If they are, you can also dope and end the embarrassing drops.


How? Go to your profile on Zwift and subtract weight -- say, 40 pounds -- from your actual weight. Type it into your "weight" box. Voila! Instant speed! You'll fly like Team SKY and have no fear of drug testing!
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo View Post
Go to your profile on Zwift and subtract weight -- say, 40 pounds -- from your actual weight. Type it into your "weight" box. Voila! Instant speed! You'll fly like Team SKY and have no fear of drug testing!
That would put his claimed weight at about 100. Lol.
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Old 03-16-18, 04:12 PM
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That would put his claimed weight at about 100. Lol.

And his icon will look like Alberto Contador at his skinniest best!
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One thing Zwift has done is to make early season races stupid fast.
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Old 03-17-18, 01:08 PM
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Are your friends doing "electronic doping?" If they are, you can also dope and end the embarrassing drops.


How? Go to your profile on Zwift and subtract weight -- say, 40 pounds -- from your actual weight. Type it into your "weight" box. Voila! Instant speed! You'll fly like Team SKY and have no fear of drug testing!
I can't imagine anyone being so fragile of ego they'd need to cheat a training program to make themselves feel better. God, that's pathetic.
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Old 03-17-18, 01:21 PM
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I can't imagine anyone being so fragile of ego they'd need to cheat a training program to make themselves feel better. God, that's pathetic.

Oh yeah, it's pathetic. And it's also obvious. If you've spent much time at all on Zwift, you've spotted them. They're the people going twice as fast as everyone else almost everywhere.
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Old 03-17-18, 02:55 PM
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Trick question. You don't actually move when Zwifting so it's impossible to be fast at it.
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