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What’s next? Shockstop seatpost.

Old 04-11-18, 03:25 PM
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What’s next? Shockstop seatpost.

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Old 04-11-18, 04:04 PM
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Hey, turns out I have built-in "shockstop." It's called using my legs to lift my butt off the saddle before I hit a bump. No tools required for installation, no calibration needed.

If I'm gonna bolt a 1lb seatpost on a bike, it's gonna be a dropper.
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It's not adjustable, but when I switched from a Specialized with suspension to my current gravel, whatever, with nothing, my lower spine strongly suggested I had made a mistake. Found this and love it, just enough to take the sting out of the rough roads.

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Old 04-12-18, 07:53 AM
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On paved roads, IMO, best shockstop = riders' core strength that's able to distribute weight among "saddle" (NOT seat), handlebar, and legs as needed.
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Old 04-12-18, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Hey, turns out I have built-in "shockstop." It's called using my legs to lift my butt off the saddle before I hit a bump. No tools required for installation, no calibration needed.

If I'm gonna bolt a 1lb seatpost on a bike, it's gonna be a dropper.
For a bump here and there, lifting yourself is fine and dandy, but there's also something to be said for being able to more comfortably pedal through rough sections of road (my roads are absolutely wrecked as we exit this winter). This is by no means an endorsement for this particular product (if you want some more compliance, I'd look at tires first and something like the Canyon seat post second), but the idea is not without merit.

And yeah, 1lb+ is heavy. Oof.
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Old 04-12-18, 08:33 AM
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I own their stem and like it.

However, with the price and weight I may pass. It is tempting though- I wonder how it handles chipseal?
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I guess my primary issue is the weight-- and that the weight is a direct result of the fact that they're using steel coil springs with no apparent damping. If I'm after suspension, I'd rather a more complicated (air or fluid,) more expensive (I assume they're using single-rate coil springs for cost,) lighter post-- this one is just a variation on a theme we've seen more than a few times. That is also my least favorite method of clamping the rails.
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hasnt cane creek been doing this for awhile already?
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It's the FUTURE of seatposts!
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
I guess my primary issue is the weight-- and that the weight is a direct result of the fact that they're using steel coil springs with no apparent damping. If I'm after suspension, I'd rather a more complicated (air or fluid,) more expensive (I assume they're using single-rate coil springs for cost,) lighter post-- this one is just a variation on a theme we've seen more than a few times. That is also my least favorite method of clamping the rails.
I agree - it's ridiculously heavy at more than twice the weight of other high end seat posts. My other issue is that it makes using a Di2 internal battery difficult if not impossible. At least, it would require some fooling around to make the battery work if I were to retrofit this post.

But the idea is a good one, it's just the implementation that's off. Specialized, Fizik, and Ritchey all make seat posts that are light (~200-250g) but that provide some measure of improved vertical compliance. I have a Ritchey that was worked well and I have a Fizik that I'm going to try here shortly.

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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
I guess my primary issue is the weight-- and that the weight is a direct result of the fact that they're using steel coil springs with no apparent damping. If I'm after suspension, I'd rather a more complicated (air or fluid,) more expensive (I assume they're using single-rate coil springs for cost,) lighter post-- this one is just a variation on a theme we've seen more than a few times. That is also my least favorite method of clamping the rails.
You don't really need damping unless you're hitting large impacts as you would on singletrack. For small high frequency bumps like rough or chipseal roads or smoother off road trails this post would be fine.

It's a slimmer and less dorky looking design than the Cane Creek. It has it's place in the market.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
You don't really need damping unless you're hitting large impacts as you would on singletrack. For small high frequency bumps like rough or chipseal roads or smoother off road trails this post would be fine.

It's a slimmer and less dorky looking design than the Cane Creek. It has it's place in the market.
I agree that there is a market for that which this product purports to do. I’ve been looking for a post with similar characteristics. I just think this implementation is exceedingly poor.

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Old 04-14-18, 08:17 AM
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You don't really need damping unless you're hitting large impacts as you would on singletrack. For small high frequency bumps like rough or chipseal roads or smoother off road trails this post would be fine.
For chipseal roads and smoother trails, the most unforgiving post there is (Thomson Elite) works just fine. The Shockstop post doesn’t do anything new. The idea of a 1 pound seatpost to manage chipseal seems like a big step backwards. Maybe if I ran 23s, or had a brutally stiff aluminum frame, it might make more sense. If someone has to rely on the seat post to make the ride tolerable, a bunch of poor decisions have already been made.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
For chipseal roads and smoother trails, the most unforgiving post there is (Thomson Elite) works just fine. The Shockstop post doesn’t do anything new. The idea of a 1 pound seatpost to manage chipseal seems like a big step backwards. Maybe if I ran 23s, or had a brutally stiff aluminum frame, it might make more sense. If someone has to rely on the seat post to make the ride tolerable, a bunch of poor decisions have already been made.
It's just a suspension post, man. It's not for everyone but it has it's place.
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It's just a suspension post, man. It's not for everyone but it has it's place.
I agree-- I just want it better.
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Thudbuster works fine , in ST and LT version. In the manual they still say : See a big hit coming? get off the saddle..
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S-works CG-R works wonders for me.
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It's the FUTURE of seatposts!
Does that mean that it will have to be replaced every 500 hours?
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Without having ridden either, I would say this looks like a better design, though more expensive.

Products ? ERGON BIKE

It is identical to the seat post that comes on some new enduraces.
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Without having ridden either, I would say this looks like a better design, though more expensive.

Products ? ERGON BIKE

It is identical to the seat post that comes on some new enduraces.
It looks good. Hopefully just a little flex without too much.

Specialized has moved from a seatpost with vertical "Zerts" to one with a zig-zag for a little flex built into the post design. And, no moving parts.





I can't say how much any of this would be necessary. It would seem to be minimal benefit for mostly road riding, but perhaps a benefit for off-road or gravel.
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I can't say how much any of this would be necessary. It would seem to be minimal benefit for mostly road riding, but perhaps a benefit for off-road or gravel.
If it'd be a minimal benefit for your road riding, count yourself fortunate. My roads are in absolutely horrendous shape this spring.
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If it'd be a minimal benefit for your road riding, count yourself fortunate. My roads are in absolutely horrendous shape this spring.
The CG-R is similar and when I fly onto my driveway and hit the lip at 15mph, you can feel the counter dip. Thought the post was or seat rails broke at first... The roads here kinda suck and the post came with the bike but... if I win the lotto and get my $20 grand bike.. this seat post will be on it.
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The CG-R is similar and when I fly onto my driveway and hit the lip at 15mph, you can feel the counter dip. Thought the post was or seat rails broke at first... The roads here kinda suck and the post came with the bike but... if I win the lotto and get my $20 grand bike.. this seat post will be on it.

Hmm. Don't hear much about this seat post from a user perspective. I've had it on my watch list for a while but Spec is pretty picky about returns if it doesn't seem to work and it's a pricey post.

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The CG-R is similar and when I fly onto my driveway and hit the lip at 15mph, you can feel the counter dip. Thought the post was or seat rails broke at first... The roads here kinda suck and the post came with the bike but... if I win the lotto and get my $20 grand bike.. this seat post will be on it.
Yeah, I have a Domane, which has similar compliance built in to the seat tube and steerer/HT - very beneficial given the conditions of the roadways.
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Discuss!!
Looks more elegant than the Cane Creek and BodyFloat options I have been considering for my (currently rigid) mountain bike.
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