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Do you carry a chain tool when you ride?

Old 04-24-18, 12:00 PM
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I do, Crankbros M19 is the best. It's integral to the tool so there's really no reason not to. I've used it once or twice for myself due to repair a broken quicklink on the road. Once or twice for another rider stuck on the trail with a broken chain.

Oh and I also used it once during a race, saved my race and kept me from walking 15 miles of singletrack.
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr View Post
You might as well leave the quick links at home too then because its not like the chain is going to break in such a matter as to leave you with two exposed inner side links for you to put the quick link on without having to remove a pin.
That's where "the kindness of strangers" comes into play. If you're in the middle of nowhere, yes it would be kind of pointless to carry just the links, but where I ride, there are generally enough other riders around that I could beg and plead for help. I guess we just have to make the calculation, whether or not to carry the extra weight, or to rely on others for help. I carry links, and no tool, so I guess I've decided that I'll take my chances. Of course nothing is guaranteed, and I understand the consequences if I don't get help.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot View Post
I do, Crankbros M19 is the best.
I've carried one for about 10 years now. Even that rubber thing that goes around it has stayed intact. The chain tool works so good that it's the only one I use at home.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Well, remembering that 2oz = ~56.5g, adding even a simple chain tool like the Park Mini which is 77g puts us over that. If I swapped my 27g Ritchey CPR9 multitool for a chain tool integrated one, like the 96g Ritchey CPR12+, that's still more than 2oz for that alone. I run Campagnolo, so I need the peening Park CT6.3 tool, which is 135g, closer to an addition of 1/4lbs than 2oz! None of that stuff would fit in my Cyckit Aeroclam anyway.
What is true is that most tools are way oversized and that you have special needs with Campy. However, if you take the Topeak Superchain at 65g which includes 5 and 6mm wrenches (or toss the hex key to lose a few grams because you want a more versatile multitool and carry the 54g Park MT-1), you're covered for a wide range of problems.

But yeah, very doable for under 2oz. Some chain tool handles could be cut down to save extra weight and space.

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@banerjek, I did not know about Topeak Super Chain tool, so your point is taken!

The Park MT-1 is a lousy tool, however, and utterly useless for a modern road bike (i.e. one without nuts). The Ritchey CPR-9 smokes it in terms of functionality and weight.
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Old 04-24-18, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
That's where "the kindness of strangers" comes into play. If you're in the middle of nowhere, yes it would be kind of pointless to carry just the links, but where I ride, there are generally enough other riders around that I could beg and plead for help. I guess we just have to make the calculation, whether or not to carry the extra weight, or to rely on others for help. I carry links, and no tool, so I guess I've decided that I'll take my chances. Of course nothing is guaranteed, and I understand the consequences if I don't get help.
One could call it relying on the kindness of strangers. Another way to put it would be taking advantage of others in a selfish manner. I guess some people try not to be a burden on others. Some others: not so much.
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Don't carry any extra links, or a tool. Never snapped a chain, I typically check everything before I leave the house for every ride anyway. I do have a chain stretch tool to see if it's getting a bit long and if they are, I replace them more often.


It's not like the $32 bucks every couple of thousand miles or so I spend on a Dura Ace chain breaks my budget.
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr View Post
You might as well leave the quick links at home too then because its not like the chain is going to break in such a matter as to leave you with two exposed inner side links for you to put the quick link on without having to remove a pin.
Hence why I admitted I rely on hopefully someone else in the group carrying a chain breaker.
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Old 04-24-18, 04:11 PM
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[QUOTE=banerjek;20304451]What is true is that most tools are way oversized and that you have special needs with Campy./QUOTE]

For emergency roadside solution, unless there's something fundamental I'm missing, you only need a chain breaker and a quicklink for Campy in the saddlebag. Won't any chain breaker work on a campy chain?
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Yep. A park ct-5 along with an sks toolbox, in the neoprene bag from a topeak multi tool. Weight isn’t a huge concern of mine, keeping my machine going is.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
@banerjek, I did not know about Topeak Super Chain tool, so your point is taken!

The Park MT-1 is a lousy tool, however, and utterly useless for a modern road bike (i.e. one without nuts). The Ritchey CPR-9 smokes it in terms of functionality and weight.
Tells you something about when I got my bikes and tools...
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Yes, it's part of my Park Tool multitool. I've only used it once, during a club ride, on another member's bike.
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Old 04-24-18, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post

For emergency roadside solution, unless there's something fundamental I'm missing, you only need a chain breaker and a quicklink for Campy in the saddlebag. Won't any chain breaker work on a campy chain?
Yes, that's correct.

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No chain tool on my road bikes. I've never broken a chain on a ride. I have one with my gravel bike though. I take that deep into the woods solo & so need to get myself out. I also carry a quick connect and spare hanger. Weird stuff happens to chains and hangers while while bouncing around on rocks and branches.
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Yes, I carry a Fabric 16 multi-tool. I've had several instances where the hex tools came in handy and once, the chain breaker. I've never had a chain go, but another guy on one of our group rides snapped a new chain about a quarter way through the ride. We were able to patch the chain back together and he finished the ride. I use the tool less than 0.1% of the rides I do, but I just like knowing it's there. The Fabric unit is very small and about half the weight of the Topeak unit I was carrying.
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This is what I carry. Lightest that I've come across- alloy body.

Includes 4mm, 5mm hex, & flat screwdriver.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post
This is what I carry. Lightest that I've come across- alloy body.

Includes 4mm, 5mm hex, & flat screwdriver.
That's an old Ritchey CPR9 missing an allen (or a knockoff). Like I said, Ritchey multitools are the best. I don't think I've carried anything other than a Ritchey since the early '90s when TR dropped the amazing CPR9 device. I'm almost embarrassed to admit I actually carried a Cool Tool before the CPR, which literally must have weighed a pound.

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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
That's an old Ritchey CPR9 missing an allen (or a knockoff). Like I said, Ritchey multitools are the best. I don't think I've carried anything other than a Ritchey since the early '90s when TR dropped the amazing CPR9 device. I'm almost embarrassed to admit I actually carried a Cool Tool before the CPR, which literally must have weighed a pound.

Cool- it came with a bike & didn't know brand, etc..

Pretty much 1/2 the weight of other options.
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
What is true is that most tools are way oversized and that you have special needs with Campy. However, if you take the Topeak Superchain at 65g which includes 5 and 6mm wrenches (or toss the hex key to lose a few grams because you want a more versatile multitool and carry the 54g Park MT-1), you're covered for a wide range of problems.

But yeah, very doable for under 2oz. Some chain tool handles could be cut down to save extra weight and space.

I broke one of these, but at least I was using it at home.
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I commute to work (high school math, I have to be on time) on a road bike 8 miles one way, and carry a water bottle in the 2nd cage with: chain breaker, 2 tubes, 3 allen wrenches, 3 CO2 cartridges, phillips/flat screw drives (small ones), a small 4" crescent wrench and a presta-valve adapter. I can't be late to school and I hate wimping out and calling my wife to rescue me because I have a flat tire or broken chain etc.

I ride bikes I snag off CL and I don't consistently change out the parts that the previous owner installed.

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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
Just curious. In another thread about what tools to carry I was surprised at how many included a chain tool.
Yes.

Any stories to tell about losing a chain on the road?
Most recently my chain over-shifted beyond my big ring, went back on with two loops, stopped my pedaling, and bent a link at each spot the chain crossed itself. I used my chain tool to remove the link bent too far to be usable and finished my ride.

Before moving to chains with peened over ends I broke three, and used by chain tool to rejoin them minus a link. That's completely safe for me because I size my chains for the largest ring + cog combination I own, but outside special events ride a combination requiring 6-7 teeth less wrap.

So I can repair such problems, I carry a left over length of new chain, three master links (enough to remove two bent links and splice in the new chain), and a Park CT-5 chain tool.

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Yes. Broke a few chains.
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I don't carry one as I don't have enough space in my pockets for other stuff, although to be honest I have broken one when riding mtb a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
Only because it's on a multitool in one of my saddle bags.
I've got one on my multitool also. Never have used it until a couple weeks ago. Not on the road, but thought I'd better see if I could actually break a chain with it. Couldn't do it. So I bought a larger chain breaker (works well). Still debating if I should carry the new breaker, or simply a replacement chain. Just a question of how many fears do you pack. If I was only doing day rides, I wouldn't do either. But I tour and also do some Randonneuring, so I will go with the breaker or a chain.
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This thread neatly divides the cycling world into two groups: Those who carry chain tools and those who don’t. Here’s some speculation:

1. Chain Breaker Carriers:

a. They most probably know how to use one as they chose to spend more on a heavier tool to carry.

b. They have enough lifetime miles ridden to know chains sometimes break on the road.

c. As CBCers they probably keep well maintained bikes and know they may never need it for their own bike, but they carry because they can help other riders with broken chains.

2. Non Chain Breaker Carriers:

a. They may be new riders, occasional riders, or mechanically inept riders. No crime here; their cell phone is charged up, the MUP is not too far from home, someone can come get them.

b. Since no one here on the 41 forum can count themselves in that first group we have to assume they either:

i. Are supremely confident that their own chains would never break

ii. Don’t know how to use a chain breaker

iii. Expect someone else in their rider group will carry one for them. If this is the case that extra several grams they expect others to carry for them totally negates all city limit sign victories, first up the hill events, Strava anything, and all other forms of pseudo racing.

iv. Have equipped their mom’s RAV4 with a bike rack for retrieval from solo ride break downs.
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