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64cm Carbon Frame? or Light Steel?

Old 05-07-18, 08:43 AM
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64cm Carbon Frame? or Light Steel?

Anyone these days make a new 64cm carbon endurance/cross geo frame? I know that Trek and Specialized have in the past - but am looking to buy new. Is Gunnar or Soma the lightest steel bike you get new right now?
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Specialized Diverge comes in 64
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il massimo makes some nice steel frames in 64cm, and right now many are very affordable.

Steel Road Bike Frames Made in Italy!
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If you have mucho dinero, look at custom carbon framebuilders. Be prepared to pay but it may be worth it.
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If you have mucho dinero, look at custom carbon framebuilders. Be prepared to pay but it may be worth it.
They are more affordable than you might realize. and you'll get the size/features/colors you want.
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They are more affordable than you might realize. and you'll get the size/features/colors you want.
Same for steel frame builders. 1500 to 2500 will get you a LOT of bike in a custom steel frame.
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Originally Posted by rgconner View Post
Same for steel frame builders. 1500 to 2500 will get you a LOT of bike in a custom steel frame.
It will buy a lot of weight.

$3k will get you an 900g frame made with Enve tubes/stays, and a CF fork
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
It will buy a lot of weight.

$3k will get you an 900g frame made with Enve tubes/stays, and a CF fork
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Calfee comes in sizes up to 68cm with prices starting at $2495 for frame/fork. Sounds like you want the "adventure" geo
https://calfeedesign.com/
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
It will buy a lot of weight.

$3k will get you an 900g frame made with Enve tubes/stays, and a CF fork
If weight was someones only/major concern, sure.

But if not, you get more for your money with a custom steel frame.

Not everybody is a weight weenie with an unlimited budget.
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How do you get more for your money?
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Want.
I had one, but mine was slightly heavier due to the titanium BSA BB, and the larger size..
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Originally Posted by rgconner View Post
Not everybody is a weight weenie with an unlimited budget.
That's true, but not everyone is broke-ass luddite either.
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Trek Carbon is dirt cheap now. Trek's 500 series carbon frame comes on their $1,999 road bikes which during sale time would be more like $1,699. Pretty good deal actually.
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That's true, but not everyone is broke-ass luddite either.
You can't be broke ass to buy a custom steel frames, they still cost more than most bikes.

As for the luddite accusation... I like carbon bikes, I think they are great...

After 20 years of development, they ride as nice as steel.
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Originally Posted by rgconner View Post
You can't be broke ass to buy a custom steel frames, they still cost more than most bikes.

As for the luddite accusation... I like carbon bikes, I think they are great...

After 20 years of development, they ride as nice as steel.
The point is, you don't have to be rich to ride custom CF.
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The point is, you don't have to be rich to ride custom CF.
True, if I could use it in place of a car, it is a good buy.

If it is just for exercise... well, you are well off, if not rich.
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True, if I could use it in place of a car, it is a good buy.

If it is just for exercise... well, you are well off, if not rich.
that's true for a $2500 steel frame as well.
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that's true for a $2500 steel frame as well.
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Yep, but I never said I was poor, you did.

OTOH, I have 18 years and an unknown number of miles on my steel frame. Enough miles to fatigue crack two sets of hand built wheels.

Few paint scratches but the frame is still as good as new.

I tested a Specialized Diverge and a Crux for a couple of days while the shop built new wheels. I found the Diverge a little too cushy (and I hate Shimano mechanicals) and the Crux was pretty good. Nearly as good a ride as the custom bike.
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Yep, but I never said I was poor, you did.
When did I say you were poor?
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When did I say you were poor?
"That's true, but not everyone is broke-ass luddite either."

I am concerned about your short term memory loss. Maybe you are over training?
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Originally Posted by rgconner View Post
"That's true, but not everyone is broke-ass luddite either."

I am concerned about your short term memory loss. Maybe you are over training?
I'm concerned with your reading comprehension skills. I never said you were a broke-ass luddite, just like you never called me a weight-weenie with an unlimited budget.

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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce View Post
Calfee comes in sizes up to 68cm with prices starting at $2495 for frame/fork. Sounds like you want the "adventure" geo
https://calfeedesign.com/
Thanks for the link there. Yes, if I can't find a good carbon option at 64/66 then I'd probably head to Gunnar and do a custom steel.
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Originally Posted by rgconner View Post
Specialized Diverge comes in 64
Hey thanks - after digging a bit - it looks like they do have one model Men's Diverge Comp E5 that's 64. Def going to take it for a ride. Thanks.
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Hey thanks - after digging a bit - it looks like they do have one model Men's Diverge Comp E5 that's 64. Def going to take it for a ride. Thanks.
a Futureshock frameset? No thanks. Otherwise that’s a good deal.
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