RichardAnkers

Hi!

I was hoping that someone could help me with this!

I recently bought an old bike with Mavic Speciale Sport rims.
The specs (According to Velobase) are >
Rim Type – Tubular
Rim Size – 700c (622 mm)
Rim Outer Width (mm) – 21mm

I need to get some new tires as the old ones are completely busted. I'd like to get a pair with white (not off-white) walls and found the Vittoria Open Corsa CX 23-622.

The specs are >

Size – 700 x 23C (23-622)
Recommended tyre pressure: 8 - 10 bar
ISOgrip compound
Protection: PRB 2.0
Casing: Corespun 320 TPi

The question is; Will they fit?

Sorry for the newbie question!

Thanks!

Richard

cycledogg

Your cutting your options down requesting that the tires have WHITE side walls. Tufo makes a S33 700x21 tire that would fit perfect. A 700x22 would be ok IMHO, but a 23 may be a bit bulging on the rims. Besides, the white would start to look rather dingy after the first few rides, and may not be so appealing. Consider tan walls at best.
Cheers

JohnDThompson 

Yes, those Vittoria Open Corsa CX should fit. But as noted above, white sidewalls are best for show bikes, not bikes that get ridden.

f4rrest

Are you familiar with gluing tubulars?

Dean V

Open Corsa is not a tubular!
Will not work.

CliffordK

Good catch!!!

Tubulars will be rated as 700c, 27", or perhaps even 28" (all the same). They generally aren't rated as 622 BSD.

Make sure your tire says "tubular", or "sewup" and NOT "tubeless" or "open tubular".

Sizes from say 20mm width to 25mm width or so should be fine if they fit in the frame.

JohnDThompson 

My bad!

I was thinking of this:

kbarch

Oooh - fancy! But although he did admit his bike was old, he said he wanted new tires.
Meanwhile, here's a white 23mm sidewall tire: - which I think is what OP was looking for. Unfortunately, it seems the seller only has one, but needs to sell it to get through med school or something.....

bikepro

As mentioned below, these are tubular rims that require tubular tires. My question: Do you know how to mount tubulars? There are numerous articles on the web, but it they are still not as easy as clinchers. Even if you have a shop mount them, what if you have a flat on the road? They are a lot of work even when you know how to work with them.

RichardAnkers

cycledogg

Yes, I realise that it will cut my options down and that they won't stay white for long, but I'd still like to try because I like the look
Thanks, I'll try and find a slimmer tire!
Cheers

f4rrest

No, not at all!

Dean V

Ok, thanks!

CliffordK

Ok, thanks for the info!

JohnDTHompson & kbarch

Thanks! Those are nice but yes, I think I'd prefer new tires

bikepro

I do not! But I was under the impression that I have to use tubular tires with that rim?
Are there any other options? Besides getting new rims of course.
Thanks!

DiabloScott

Richard, if you don't already know about tubulars, you probably don't want them. Tubular rims require tubular tires. People who like them are either racers, cyclocross riders, or vintage bike fans. In fact one of the things I like about my tubulars is the fact that they're too much hassle for most people to bother with.

Vittoria doesn't make these anymore, but there is still some stock out there if we haven't talked you out of it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vittoria-Co...oAAOSw7WJazXwb

RichardAnkers

Hi!
I hear you but right now I'd rather not get a pair of new wheels. Plus, maybe I start liking tubulars, who knows
Would these ones fit the bill?

VITTORIA Corsa EVO CX Tubular 320TPI Black White

I'm not allowed to post links apparently..
Thanks!
Richard

DiabloScott

OK!
Yup. Make double sure the ones you get don't say "open tubular"... which means "not tubular".
One of the best tires ever made.
You can try posting parts of a link for us to stick together if you want.

RichardAnkers

Ok!
Let's see if this works..

www.motosjoserioja
.com/epages/Motosjose
.sf/en_GB/?Object
Path=/Shops/
Motosjose/Products/15081

Appreciate it!

R

Dean V

If you don't mind black tread with a tan sidewall you will have a lot more options.

cycledogg

Yes, that is a tubular tire. It will work. Good choice, (except white walls )
https://www.motosjoserioja.com/epages...Products/15081

caloso

I don't think I've ever seen a white wall tubular. Lots of skin walls, including Vittoria.

RichardAnkers

Hi,

Thanks everyone!

I've reconsidered and will go with black tires. I realised it will actually look nicer so thanks!

I'm looking at getting either of these instead. I hope they will also work!

Vittoria Corsa CX Tubular 23-622

or

Vittoria Corsa EVO CX Tubular 320 TPI

I'm not really sure what the difference is?

Thanks again!

Richard

woodcraft

'622' denotes the bead seat diameter, and since tubulars don't have a bead,

it means that that is a "not tubular".

Simple, right?

RichardAnkers

Aha! Thanks!
Strange though that it actually says "Tubular" in the name but it's not a tubular tire.. Confusing.
So the Vittoria Corsa EVO CX Tubular 320 TPI is the one to go for in that case?

woodcraft

Yes, although those are expensive tires. You might consider starting with inexpensive tires

like Vittoria Rally while you see if you like the whole tubular thing.

Also, I recommend following the mounting instructions that come with the tires and not getting freaked out by

the various 'sky-is-falling' you tube videos out there.

RichardAnkers

Yes, that makes a lot of sense.
I'll stay off YouTube
Thanks!

woodcraft

No, take a look for how to get the tire on the rim, etc.,

but there are whole quasi-religious days long rituals for gluing tires promoted

that are excessive IMO.

DiabloScott

Well it should be, but manufacturers and vendors don't always follow the conventional terminology... so it's not simple.
This ad is clearly for a tubular tire and it's advertised as a 23-622:
https://www.starbike.com/en/vittoria...r-tire-23-622/

So the rule is, if it says "tubular" anywhere on the tire or the advertising or the sale listing, make damned sure whether it's a real tubular or a clincher before you buy.
And yeah, those Vittoria Corsas are really nice tires.

Homebrew01

Yup, it's not that difficult, but takes practice.

1. Mount tire and pump to 100 psi. Give it a day or 2 to stretch. For your first experience, maybe practice mounting a few times without glue. Pretend the base tape has glue and try to avoid it while mounting the tire.

2. Spread glue on base tape. I put scrap plastic bag over my finger tip to spread it. Others use a brush.
3. Set tire aside, glue will get tacky. Spread glue on rim.
4. Mount tire. Pump partway.
5. Check valve stem is straight. Work tire around to straighten it if needed
6. Spin wheel & center tire as needed.
7. Pump to 90 - 100
8. Ride 24 hours later.