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Why are DT Swiss hubs so heavy?

Old 05-30-18, 02:14 PM
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Why are DT Swiss hubs so heavy?

I see that they're very expensive but also they're really heavy. I mean it contradicts Bontrager's Law and those are very good hubs. What's the thing with them?
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Old 05-30-18, 02:33 PM
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Phil Wood and Chris King are also heavy.
DTSwiss are easy to service.
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Originally Posted by redfooj View Post
Phil Wood and Chris King are also heavy.
DTSwiss are easy to service.
White Industries hubs are even heavier.

Hubs aren’t a great place to try and save weight(or money)

BHS(Bitex) and Novatec hubs are lightweight and cheap, but they will never be as durable as DT or WI hubs.
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Old 05-30-18, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
White Industries hubs are even heavier.

Hubs aren’t a great place to try and save weight(or money)

BHS(Bitex) and Novatec hubs are lightweight and cheap, but they will never be as durable as DT or WI hubs.
This. I hated having to replace perfectly good Shimano wheels my bike came with because the races couldn't be replaced and it didn't make sense to buy new hubs. I want hubs to be bulletproof and 100% serviceable.
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Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
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Originally Posted by baribari View Post
This. I hated having to replace perfectly good Shimano wheels my bike came with because the races couldn't be replaced and it didn't make sense to buy new hubs. I want hubs to be bulletproof and 100% serviceable.
Did that actually happen or you just forget normal maintenance? I have "$20" Shimano hubs is service on my commuter for 10 years and they are perfectly fine. On the other hand my Fulcrum wheels from January this year, with cartridge bearings, are already slightly notchy. Sure I can replace them down the line, but I rather have a wheel that doesn't need the bearings replaced in the first place?
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Old 05-31-18, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by baribari View Post
This. I hated having to replace perfectly good Shimano wheels my bike came with because the races couldn't be replaced and it didn't make sense to buy new hubs. I want hubs to be bulletproof and 100% serviceable.
I guarantee the cups were destroyed because the excess preload that's so common on new hubs was never rectified by the shop which sold you the wheels.

Cups in loose-ball hubs should last basically forever if the preload is anywhere near correct.
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I just figured it was too many hard bumps to the wheels.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
More practical for a revolver; with a hub you'd at least have to take the time to remove the wheel from the bike, if not the hub from the wheel! Unless you just happen to have extra hubs laying around, in which case... why can't I have that problem?
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Originally Posted by Nate998 View Post
I see that they're very expensive but also they're really heavy. I mean it contradicts Bontrager's Law and those are very good hubs. What's the thing with them?
what do you mean by heavy???
a 240 rear is like 200g
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They're genuinely reasonably light. There are lighter hubs out there, and many of them are just fine, but DTs have reasonable sized bearings, pretty large axles, and a very good reliability record. They are generally easy to service. They exist for nearly every standard and convert easily with end caps and different freehub bodies. For better or worse they're a well regarded brand name.
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Originally Posted by anon` View Post
More practical for a revolver; with a hub you'd at least have to take the time to remove the wheel from the bike, if not the hub from the wheel! Unless you just happen to have extra hubs laying around, in which case... why can't I have that problem?
You don't carry spare hubs when you ride?
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
You win the internet.
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Old 05-31-18, 06:00 PM
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Replacing hubs is a lot of work plus there is often the cost of new spokes. I want hubs that simply work or at least all parts are serviceable or replaceable is a real plus if only to save the need to rebuild the wheel. Swapping rims is quick and easy. Swapping hubs is a complete rebuild, no easier than a wheel from scratch.

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Old 06-01-18, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
You don't carry spare hubs when you ride?
Ha! I had to seek to the ends of the earth to find a shop that had spare RS-10 spokes from c. 2011 to fix my wheel when I broke one last summer... there is no way that my wife would let me buy spare hubs!

But it sounds like you might have some extras laying around...
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