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cowboy, steel horse, etc
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He was considering that but didn't like the color. I agree. Cool bike, though, if you had a couple bikes. I can't imagine a Road Logic as the primary bike.
Steel v. ti v. carbon is a broad range. Who makes the ti frame is a big factor for me. Without a reputable builder, and since I'm not into classic steel bikes, carbon wins easily. In fact, given my experience on the Cinelli, the new aluminum stuff comes in second and with a savings that can go to wheels.
Steel v. ti v. carbon is a broad range. Who makes the ti frame is a big factor for me. Without a reputable builder, and since I'm not into classic steel bikes, carbon wins easily. In fact, given my experience on the Cinelli, the new aluminum stuff comes in second and with a savings that can go to wheels.
#7302
Has a magic bike
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I agonize over whether to put a dropper post on the Spark. Too much weight, I love the bike being light. But then again, there are times I really should be dropping my seat out there. I'm torn with indecision.
I already took the race tires off when I went to Utah to ride, put on something more durable, and took a hit on magicness on the Spark. Hate to downgrade its magic further by adding weight to it needlessly. Can't make a decision.
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On the other hand, that could be an excuse to by a fuguhiki as well. I know @WhyFi would be drooling over it.
I do need a bread knife, though.
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Fired up the stereo/turntable after the morning's chatter. It could be better, but it's still pretty good. The girl is loving, and dancing to, Rastaman Vibration.
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Bread knife... do you not just use your gyuto? They work.
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#7308
Mostly Harmless
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Edit: oh, and Kiritsuke are at the top of my totally not practical, but still very lustful, knife list.
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#7311
cowboy, steel horse, etc
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#7312
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You completely misinterpreted my comments to you. We offer here what we hope is honest informed advice, unlike the 41. This is done on a variety of topics, from cameras to computers to illness to animals. You have been around and participated. You have offered your own advice and made your opinion apparent. You have also said you don't ride because of a previous incident and own an old aluminum bike. Based on that, you seem to qualify as someone who would benefit from some honest informed advice.
You are a grown man that can make his own decisions. Why you would ask for advice and then get insulted when it is inconsistent with what you want to hear, is very 41. The notion that I am pushing you, as a grown man that can make his own decisions, is silly.
Given all of this, I suspect you are suffering from Handwringing Butt Hurt Syndrome (HBHS). You see HBHS in the 41, but rarely here in Addiction. In fact, you might be the only one here with HBHS.
#7313
Senior Member
So what are the best titanium bicycles?
The reality is, unfortunately, that we hear of as many titanium bikes breaking as carbon. Why? Because titanium is impossible to make cheaply and most bikes are sourced from anonymous factories in the far-east where it is impossible to monitor design and construction methods.
With that in mind, here are some questions you may want to posit before for buying titanium:
Provenance is everything - Ask the builder where the tubing is milled and machined prior to welding?
You will also want to know why they buy from that particular mill. You will want to ask what titanium grade they use and why and where. i.e. is it aerospace grade 3Al-2.5V or something else?
Do they butt they their tubing or is it plain or straight-gauge? If so are the tubes are butted internally or externally and are these processes completed in-house or sub-contracted?
You will want to know the name and experience level of the person who is going to weld your frame.
Are they titanium specialists or is it another string to their bow? If it is the latter then consider a company who make it their life’s work making your bike for life.Is All Titanium Equal?
Unhelpfully no. There are three main categories:
CP or Commercially Pure – not suitable for making bicycle frames – it is neither stiff nor strong enough. To be avoided!
3AL-2.5V Alloy – consisting of 94.5% ti, 3% aluminium and 2.5% vanadium – best suited to building bicycle frames because of optimal, strength, fatigue endurance, corrosion-resistance and workability. But not all 3AL-2.5V is itself equal (as we will find later).
6AL-4V Alloy - An alloy of 6% aluminum, 4% vanadium and 90% ti. An exceptionally hard material that is useful for making drop-outs etc but difficult to make into a complete bicycle frame.Not All 3AL-2.5V is Equal. This is becoming a minefield…
There are three main grades of 3-2.5 available and essentially you want the best one for your bike, and that means - 3-2.5 AMS grade 105 (Aerospace Material Specifications) This provides the designer and builder the greatest freedom of expression with the ultimate raw materials with the most exceptional tolerances. But this material is only available to titanium specialists as it has to be pre-purchased in large quantities.
The lesser grades are Sports and Scrap Grades of 3AL-2.5V. Both are inferior because they have fewer processing steps to cut costs, which affects the performance of the material both in construction and final ride and durability.
Essentially you cannot make a great titanium frame without great ingredients, in the same way that you cannot make a fantastic wine without exceptional grapes and vines.
#7315
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I'll say this and be done. Maybe.
You completely misinterpreted my comments to you. We offer here what we hope is honest informed advice, unlike the 41. This is done on a variety of topics, from cameras to computers to illness to animals. You have been around and participated. You have offered your own advice and made your opinion apparent. You have also said you don't ride because of a previous incident and own an old aluminum bike. Based on that, you seem to qualify as someone who would benefit from some honest informed advice.
You are a grown man that can make his own decisions. Why you would ask for advice and then get insulted when it is inconsistent with what you want to hear, is very 41. The notion that I am pushing you, as a grown man that can make his own decisions, is silly.
Given all of this, I suspect you are suffering from Handwringing Butt Hurt Syndrome (HBHS). You see HBHS in the 41, but rarely here in Addiction. In fact, you might be the only one here with HBHS.
You completely misinterpreted my comments to you. We offer here what we hope is honest informed advice, unlike the 41. This is done on a variety of topics, from cameras to computers to illness to animals. You have been around and participated. You have offered your own advice and made your opinion apparent. You have also said you don't ride because of a previous incident and own an old aluminum bike. Based on that, you seem to qualify as someone who would benefit from some honest informed advice.
You are a grown man that can make his own decisions. Why you would ask for advice and then get insulted when it is inconsistent with what you want to hear, is very 41. The notion that I am pushing you, as a grown man that can make his own decisions, is silly.
Given all of this, I suspect you are suffering from Handwringing Butt Hurt Syndrome (HBHS). You see HBHS in the 41, but rarely here in Addiction. In fact, you might be the only one here with HBHS.
Now, after the conversations had pleasantly moved past this morning, you come back attempting a "be the bigger man" post but can't resist tossing in another insult (two, really). What was your intent with this post and the insults? Do you think I'm going to say "haha yeah, you're right of course, I'm such a wuss and poor excuse for a man, thank you for everything"?
And I'm not at all interested in the input of someone who's basically a pot-stirrer or the woman who herself has blown up over excessive advice here.
As for riding, I used to not ride. I ride now, of course. You know this, unless you missed the whole thing about Boulder 70.3, and my previous tris this year, and the training rides I posted.
So again, what was your goal with this post, other than prying open the argument that had subsided for several hours?
#7316
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I made the decision to get one on the 5010. But that bike is heavy as hell anyway. I'm still not very good about dropping it on the trails, but it's a necessity in the bike park.
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#7322
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Good god, Humbug. Look around. It's not just HP or the pot stirrer (who is either me or rjones). We could do a poll.
#7323
VFL For Life
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We know.
Correct.
No.
Fancy.
There's a hill at my school, but school's pretty much closed whenever there's enough snow to sled, so it's a mute point.
Correct.
No.
Yes. We had a couple of sledding hills, including one we called "Suicide Hill." Also, there was a public ski area off school grounds that we could walk to. I think it was only open during weekends so we could sled there during the week. A part of the school as wooded, and there was a creek running through it. Sometimes we would build dams and catch crayfish and salamanders. The first few years I was there we had a few domesticated animals. Sheep and goats IIRC. Pottery studio. Art building. We were constantly staging plays based on things we learned. Tree houses that we helped build. Real artsy fartsy place. We called our teachers by their first names and often sat on the floor to do work. Up through the 1st grade you were required to have a change of clothes in your cubby in case you got wet or muddy from doing something like playing in the creek.
There's a hill at my school, but school's pretty much closed whenever there's enough snow to sled, so it's a mute point.
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Ok, I'm going to drop it all out on the ******* table. Yes, I have mental issues. You all know that, I'm sure. I've been on Lexapro and Trazodone for years, since I lived in Boulder. They helped a great deal, but yeah, I'm broken. Why? Because me ******* too. That's right, men are victims of sex assault as well, and I'm still not fixed after almost three decades of trying to deal with it. So yeah, I'm emotionally weaker than a lot of people. Sensitive, as you put it. And it doesn't ******* help when I try to get things righted and someone can't help but keep picking at it. So yeah, you're right. I'm weak. I hope you're ******* happy.
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We had out school closing number (377) on a sticker stuck to the rotary phone in the kitchen. Because our bus ride was into the 'burbs and some 1.5 hrs. long, our job when it was snowing was to listen to the radio for our number to determine whether school was closed. A local AM station would read through every number. It was most tedious. "455 is closed. 456 is closed. 457 is closed. 458 opening one hour late with no transportation....blah, blah, blah).