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Buying 1st real road bike: good deal or not?

Old 07-13-18, 10:40 AM
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Buying 1st real road bike: good deal or not?

Iíve been looking at buying my first ďrealĒ bike for some time now, to compliment my current flat bar city bike, which is decent enough (steel frame, carbon forks/seatbars, XT grupo, Mavic SpeedCity wheels). Iíve budgeted approximately $2k CAD for a bike, however Iíve decided for the price point, to look at a higher second hand bike, ideally a carbon frame.

I found a guy in my city offering what seems like a great deal:

2105 Giant TCR Composite full carbon
Full Ultegra Di2 grupo (10 speed)
Easton EC90 carbon wheels

The seller is asking $2400 CAD. The bike has approximately 400km on it and no crashes, although I havenít seen it in the flesh. $2400 seems like a great deal for a Di2-level carbon bike, but itís still $2400. Iím nervous about buying a second-hand bike from a stranger. Looking for advice from anyone whoís bought second-hand, or knows/owns this bike: is $2400 a good deal? What questions should I ask when buying? What things should I look out for when inspecting he bike?

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The bike is probably older than the seller is telling you. In 2015 Ultegra DI2 would have been 11 speed
My guess is that it is a 2013 model https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcr-composite-0-2013
Price sounds high I would not expect to pay that much for a 5 year old bike

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And I wouldn't want to be finding parts for 6870 if I needed to down the road.
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Also, the bike could have been bought with newer mechanical in 2015 and retrofitted with 6870. I still wouldn't touch it, not for $2400, and especially not if that's over your budget.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
And I wouldn't want to be finding parts for 6870 if I needed to down the road.
Ultegra 6870 is 11 speed not 10 speed. OP states that the bike has 10 speed Ultegra DI2
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
Ultegra 6870 is 11 speed not 10 speed. OP states that the bike has 10 speed Ultegra DI2
Ah right, sorry, I mixed up 6870 with 6770. The pre-X000 systems are starting to blend together. The 10sp Ultegra Di2 is 6770, and I still wouldn't want to be finding spare parts for it. Not even right now.
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If you convert loons to USD, that's not terrible... 1800 or so? It's not like the value of a bike plummets to zero when somebody's butt touches it. If you found a NEW TCR on sale at the end of the year, what would it cost up by you?

Meet the guy at a bike shop and have them give a good going over. My last two bikes were used carbon bikes, no regrets.
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Wheels alone are worth 600 throw in a carbon frame and DI2 you do the math
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Iíve been looking at buying my first ďrealĒ bike for some time now, to compliment my current flat bar city bike, which is decent enough (steel frame, carbon forks/seatbars, XT grupo, Mavic SpeedCity wheels). Iíve budgeted approximately $2k CAD for a bike, however Iíve decided for the price point, to look at a higher second hand bike, ideally a carbon frame.

I found a guy in my city offering what seems like a great deal:

2105 Giant TCR Composite full carbon
Full Ultegra Di2 grupo (10 speed)
Easton EC90 carbon wheels

The seller is asking $2400 CAD. The bike has approximately 400km on it and no crashes, although I havenít seen it in the flesh. $2400 seems like a great deal for a Di2-level carbon bike, but itís still $2400. Iím nervous about buying a second-hand bike from a stranger. Looking for advice from anyone whoís bought second-hand, or knows/owns this bike: is $2400 a good deal? What questions should I ask when buying? What things should I look out for when inspecting he bike?

TIA
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To spend that much $$$ for a used bike, you should really know what you're doing. Think of buying new as a kind of insurance policy against unknowns.
what he said. Great new Did i say NEW bikes with professional support for that money. You will be happier and sleep better 😀
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I bought a used carbon fiber bike with old DA stuff on it about 10 years ago, for the price you are looking at for the Giant. I had to source replacement parts a couple of times (I broke a RD and a shifter lever), but with help of a good bike shop (and ebay), I never had any trouble. In short, it was a great purchase that lasted a long time and lots of miles and lots of races. That old bike (early 2000s) is still in great condition, and I still have it. I haven't ridden it much in the past year because I treated myself to a new bike.... I was bored and wanted something new to spice up my cycling :-)

Anyway, my point is that spending $2500 on a used CF bike was one of the best cycling-related purchases I ever made.
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Way too much. Buy this one:
https://www.framedbikes.com/collecti...=8302856568883
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
If you convert loons to USD, that's not terrible... 1800 or so? It's not like the value of a bike plummets to zero when somebody's butt touches it. If you found a NEW TCR on sale at the end of the year, what would it cost up by you?

Meet the guy at a bike shop and have them give a good going over. My last two bikes were used carbon bikes, no regrets.
At the time that bike was new, US and Canadian prices were almost the same. In fact, in 2015, Giant Canada had lower prices than Giant USA
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My questions would be, how do you know the mileage? if the seller isn't sure of the model year, how does he know the mileage?

This is a tough dilemma. There are 5-year-old bikes with 300 miles out there ... and they are great deals, the stuff we all dream about. But ... there are also old bikes that people try to sell as garage art, which are really just used bikes.

Check Ebay and stuff for used parts for the DI2. particularly, batteries--- can you use other batteries? From what I have heard, Li-Ion batteries have a shelf life, used or not. There might be hundreds on the market, and none of them hold more than half a charge.

Other than that---if you have to ask what to check, do not buy a used bike on your own. Take it to a bike shop, see what they say. Ask about swapping batteries.

Personally, for that money i'd go one of two routes:

I'd either buy new (as thehammerdog notes, you pay a little more for new, but you know everything is new.) or build. Building a bike is not your path.

Buying new, you Know everything is new. it works, it is modern, it is under warranty. Look for a year- or two-year-old bike leftover somewhere, sitting in the corner of a showroom. if you are going to lay out $2000-$3000, you want to be sure you get a working bike.

On another hand, though ... as chicagogal notes ... if you get a barn find/ garage art bike, you will be getting a practically new bike for much less than a comparable new bike would cost.

To me, it all depends on whether you are comfortable with your bike shop (will they tell you to buy it because it will break and give them business, or will they tell you not to, to sell you a new one?) and whether the seller is okay with you taking it to a shop for a complete physical.

I have bought used and scored big .... it happens. But so does the opposite. No easy answer.
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