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You ever wind up racing a random person on your solo ride?

Old 07-18-18, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval View Post
A grumpy, antisocial, rantish response:

People that just up and start conversations annoy me (in any context, but ESPECIALLY if I'm doing something strenuous), and to think that you should determine what I do or do not take seriously also annoys me. You do you and I'll do me. Don't assume you know anything about anything.

But the thing that trumps all of that is MY safety. You don't jump on my wheel because I have no idea how capable you are at riding on my wheel without crashing me. Or crashing yourself! I frequently barely skirt holes and debris. I don't want to be responsible for YOUR safety on MY solo ride.

If you want a social experience, go join a spin class. I'm not on a bike ride to give you a good pull. Sorry, not sorry.

There are group rides and beginner's rides and all the like where stuff can be different. My solo rides are always for a reason.
LOL....just the response I expected ! Relax dude, get out more and enjoy life ! Life is too short to be grumpy and miserable! Never wrote I did it ( reading comprehension) I offered a possible explanation of why it may have, to the poster who wrote about it ! Not condoning or condemning!

I wrote in my area there is mostly verbal communication / understanding prior to someone (unknown) catching a wheel ( again reading comprehension) .

Before getting your BP up while sitting alone in your room, relax...enjoy cycling ...have fun !

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Old 07-18-18, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I live in the fifth largest city in 'Murica. I can easily walk or ride to a good LBS. I also had open heart surgery once. Got the scar to prove it.
There's an LBS about a mile walk from me. Unfortunately sometimes there's human poop on the sidewalk between my place and that shop, so I don't tend to walk there very often, and take the long route when I do.
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No. I always ride slower than the slowest other person on the road.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I live in the fifth largest city in 'Murica. I can easily walk or ride to a good LBS.
If you are going to said LBS to fix a flat, Odds in riding there are not as high.
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Originally Posted by Steeljag View Post


LOL....just the response I expected ! Relax dude, get out more and enjoy life ! Life is too short to be grumpy and miserable! Never wrote I did it ( reading comprehension) I offered a possible explanation of why it may have, to the poster who wrote about it ! Not condoning or condemning!

I wrote in my area there is mostly verbal communication / understanding prior to someone (unknown) catching a wheel ( again reading comprehension) .

Before getting your BP up while sitting alone in your room, relax...enjoy cycling ...have fun !


And I explained why your explanation isn't a good one and is likely to be completely wrong in the first place.

And from that you've managed to dissect my life and determined that I'm miserable and I can't read well?

It's a peculiar mindset you have, and one I'm not sure I want to really attempt to understand.
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Old 07-18-18, 01:53 PM
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I can mount the tires, but without a compressor, can't always get them to seat. I had other-than-open heart surgery. When i swim I go underwater. In the past I have welded. Am I cool enough to join your club?
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Old 07-18-18, 01:54 PM
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When riding solo, I rarely come across another solo rider with similar FTP/kg and the same goals for a given ride.

It makes total sense - if you're evenly matched, riding roughly the same route, and both riding the same relative pace, neither of you are going to gain or lose much ground on each other. So starting at different times, you'll never cross paths.
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Old 07-18-18, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
I can mount the tires, but without a compressor, can't always get them to seat. I had other-than-open heart surgery. When i swim I go underwater. In the past I have welded. Am I cool enough to join your club?
Personally I find having an air compressor so handy for more than just bike stuff that I can't imagine not spending at least $100 for a small pancake one to have on hand, but there is this hack for making a $2 booster inflator



Or the less ghetto approach:


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Old 07-18-18, 02:32 PM
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This thread had much more valuable nuggets to mine - let's save tubeless talk for another day (or thread).

So about droping the hammar on the MUP...
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Originally Posted by 02Giant View Post
Occasionally I will attempt to keep pace with a younger rider that passes me. Not the attempt to hang on to their rear wheel pacing, but having them get out a ways (100 yards or so) and see if I can hang or not. A bit of a challenge of sorts. Once in a while I will pass someone and they will pick up their pace. I maintain the pace I had been on, if they want to overtake, good for them.
+2. I ride solo almost exclusively unless in the unlikely event someone in my family actually wants to ride a bike. Maybe a "group ride" 2-3 times out of my 120 or so outings per year.
Same here. Some artificial goal to shoot for. Maybe the person 100 yards ahead is just cruising on a slow day, the "challenge" between the two of you isn't real or even noticed to them but it doesn't matter. It was about you picking up the pace and going for it.

General comment.. not specific to you 02Giant.
If you notice someones else's impromtu challenge or percieve a challeng even though there wasn't one just keep doing what you are doing and let them appear to beat you. Some people will go out of their way and stop what they are doing to avoid being the recipient of someone else's "challenge". Very strange you don't want to get "beat" in a fake race that badly. How's this, maybe that guy that blew by you was doing reps or training as well. Funny how everyone with a story is faster than everyone else.

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Old 07-18-18, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr View Post
Personally I find having an air compressor so handy for more than just bike stuff that I can't imagine not spending at least $100 for a small pancake one to have on hand, but there is this hack for making a $2 booster inflator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmatxJG_zg

Or the less ghetto approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Tuw3ABtSI
Awesome. Some one (maybe you) said the same thing about a compressor the last time I mentioned this ... my thought was, "Well ... I literally never find myself wanting a compressor otherwise. if this guy thinks it is so important he can lay out the $100."

This is better. I think i already have all the parts except the 2-liter bottle ... but I have some even bigger water bottles that I use for camping, so .... yahoo! Good to go.

Thank you very much.
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Old 07-18-18, 02:46 PM
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Some people will go out of their way and stop what they are doing to avoid being the recipient of someone else's "challenge". Very strange you don't want to get "beat" in a fake race that badly.
I get beat badly regularly in real races by people that actually race.

It's most certainly not about being "beaten" by some random person on the road.

And it's not about giving direction or instruction. Where you came up with that I have no idea.

Again, safety. Mine, yours. And to a lesser degree about people not being intrusive.
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Every single ride is an opportunity for me to be a CAT6 hero, or sometimes a zero. If I silently suck your wheel at 23 mph, it means I've observed you for a little while and trust your techniques, and I suspect that a rider that can sustain that speed in the first place, knows what they are doing.
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Every single ride is an opportunity for me to be a CAT6 hero, or sometimes a zero. If I silently suck your wheel at 23 mph, it means I've observed you for a little while and trust your techniques, and I suspect that a rider that can sustain that speed in the first place, knows what they are doing.
Great plan until they make a last second swerve around a gaping pothole that you then cream.

Total zero then.
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Every single ride is an opportunity for me to be a CAT6 hero, or sometimes a zero. If I silently suck your wheel at 23 mph, it means I've observed you for a little while and trust your techniques, and I suspect that a rider that can sustain that speed in the first place, knows what they are doing.
But if the person doesn't notice you for 10 miles, you might want to reconsider your unconditional trust in their skilz.

Re drafting, it doesn't bother me, the person in the back is in the most danger. And I am a person that cannot STAND being tailgated in my car, FWIW.
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Originally Posted by Riveting View Post
Every single ride is an opportunity for me to be a CAT6 hero, or sometimes a zero. If I silently suck your wheel at 23 mph, it means I've observed you for a little while and trust your techniques, and I suspect that a rider that can sustain that speed in the first place, knows what they are doing.
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Great plan until they make a last second swerve around a gaping pothole that you then cream.

Total zero then.
Amateur.

I am like Riveting ... i watch carefully to see what a rider can do .... and then i jam on the brakes and let his wheel-sucking nose hit my tire. I pay extra for awesome insurance, and you, good sir, will be paying for my next bike upgrade. Thanks for taking the bait. Hope you enjoyed the ride.

Best part? I can usually reuse a lot of the parts on other builds.

Can y'all tell that i think people are taking this stuff Just a little too seriously?

Somehow I doubt any of us cannot cope with about any situation which arises out on the road .... and without pulling out the bear spray.

Now that I've mentioned bear spray, this thread should really take off.
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Making the pass? Rookie move. Wheelsucking? Dick move. I favor the true Cat 6 technique: wear 'em out. Get about 4-5 bikelengths back-- they know you're there. Just sit there. If they surge, pick it up. This is the most rewarding way to blow up practicing* tri-guys on the river trail. Their testosterone levels will not allow passing-- so if you do pass, they will just drope the hamer, retake the lead, and you guys will yo-yo all the way down the river. So sit back. Let him blow himself up. I did it this morning. Shamelessly. Never getting closer than about 25 feet from their wheel.

Got find the fun where you can.

*I say "practicing" because they're usually in aero position, with their racing kit, doing oh... about 19mph.
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Friendships? Ewww, gross.
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I find it incredibly rude when someone decides they want to ride on my wheel uninvited. Almost always happens after I pass. Dude, you were going along fine, and because I go around you, now it's on? IMO this is worse than the guy trying to start an impromptu Cat 6 race. Go around me, that's fine, just don't sit on right my wheel with your unknown skills.
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I brought this up because a guy decided to pass me on a down hill. I had past past him and noticed he was riding on the cross walk before a descent. So I am coasting and he makes a pass on me on a descent going hard. I did trail him for a bit. He was going on the route I always used. Eventually it turned to the flats and he really seemed like he was trying hard. I gave him like 5 bike lengths just following his pace. When he looked back his face looked like agony. Decided to put the speed on and dropped him like a sack of potatos. Felt good especially since I barely just started road biking again after a few years.
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I do often, for me it's all in good fun and a challenge to push myself to and beyond my limits. Usually when I hear someone behind me I pour on the coals and pedal as if my life depends on it. The other day I shattered a PR in the process. When I see a fellow roadie in the distance I play the menacing theme from Jaws in in my head as I set my sights on my next target. I also get passed often and sometimes as if I am standing still despite going 21-22 mph. No bruised ego, it's all in good fun.

A few weeks ago a duo had to ride at a pretty stout pace to pass me, I didn't slow up for them but didn't speed up either. For about 5-7 minutes they took turns pulling and both seemed ambivalent about my presence, I was just riding along holding my pace which was 19 mph. I enjoyed the drafting but grew tired of being blocked by these 2 so I gently pulled left and sprinted as hard as I could and blew past themand got up over 30mph as if I had a rocket assist. I experienced first hand everything about drafting I learned from Days of Thunder!

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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Making the pass? Rookie move. Wheelsucking? Dick move. I favor the true Cat 6 technique: wear 'em out. Get about 4-5 bikelengths back-- they know you're there. Just sit there. If they surge, pick it up. This is the most rewarding way to blow up practicing* tri-guys on the river trail. Their testosterone levels will not allow passing-- so if you do pass, they will just drope the hamer, retake the lead, and you guys will yo-yo all the way down the river. So sit back. Let him blow himself up. I did it this morning. Shamelessly. Never getting closer than about 25 feet from their wheel.

Got find the fun where you can.

*I say "practicing" because they're usually in aero position, with their racing kit, doing oh... about 19mph.
This is exactly how I feel. Well said.

My ideal ride is that I see nobody else out there or maybe just people going the other way... I always ride alone (well 99.9% of the time) and I am strong enough to drop the very occasional uninvited wheel sucker (they are not usually the "fast" ones). I pass almost all riders I encounter and most are going quite a bit slower and there is no drama. I definitely wear out strong riders by just keeping the pace and they usually turn off or slow considerably over time. It's not me trying to be a d!ck, I just don't want to play leap frog or change my plan. I'll hang back if our pace is really close, but at some point something has gotta give
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