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Electronic shifting - interesting observation
I was on a group ride today and noticed something interesting near the end of the ride. There were 8 of us left and I knew all of them. They all ride between 8-12k miles a year. For our area, they are all considered "A" riders.
There were 3 bikes with etap and 3 with Di2. Only 2 mechanical. Is that ratio common based on rides in your area? I just never thought electronic shifting would be so popular so fast. |
That would be high for the people I know. However, I don’t know many people doing that level of mileage. The price of Ultegra DI2 is very close to mechanical Dura Ace. |
Originally Posted by RShantz
(Post 20461293)
I just never thought electronic shifting would be so popular so fast.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
(Post 20461414)
Have you tried Di2? Use Di2 for 500+ miles, and then tell me what you think.
Was it worth a grand to upgrade ?, that’s kind of hard to answer. It works very, very well, I’m actually suppressed at how well, but tha was a chunk of change. And I know I won’t buy another road bike without it. |
I'm one of the guys with etap and am very satisfied. I was just shocked at the % of electronic at the end of todays ride.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
(Post 20461569)
I'm one of the guys with etap and am very satisfied. I was just shocked at the % of electronic at the end of todays ride.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
(Post 20461293)
I was on a group ride today and noticed something interesting near the end of the ride. There were 8 of us left and I knew all of them. They all ride between 8-12k miles a year. For our area, they are all considered "A" riders.
There were 3 bikes with etap and 3 with Di2. Only 2 mechanical. Is that ratio common based on rides in your area? I just never thought electronic shifting would be so popular so fast. My Di2 rig is one of 5 or so Di2 rigs known to LBSes in the entire county. |
The numbers would increase a lot quicker if manufacturers didn't charge a $2k premium for Di2 where the parts premium is a fraction of that.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 20461715)
The numbers would increase a lot quicker if manufacturers didn't charge a $2k premium for Di2 where the parts premium is a fraction of that.
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I was on a group ride recently, and we hit an unexpected very short, steep climb at a bend in the road. All the riders climbing while seated, in a reasonable gear, had electric shifting. The rest were grinding up in a way too high gear. The instant and drama free front and rear shifts are really nice on rides with lots of small rollers, or on these sudden situations.
A couple of years ago, even one or two Di2 bikes out of 12-20 riders was somewhat unusual. Now I notice maybe two to six on a ride of that size. |
Originally Posted by noodle soup
(Post 20461414)
Have you tried Di2? Use Di2 for 500+ miles, and then tell me what you think.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
(Post 20461293)
I just never thought electronic shifting would be so popular so fast.
-Tim- |
Originally Posted by RGMN
(Post 20461842)
But all my cars are manual transmission so I wasn't too surprised.
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Originally Posted by RGMN
(Post 20461842)
I rode Di2 Ultegra for a season. Couldn't get it off the bike fast enough at the end of the season. Switched the bike to mechanical DA and was MUCH happier. But all my cars are manual transmission so I wasn't too surprised.
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Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 20461826)
I was on a group ride recently, and we hit an unexpected very short, steep climb at a bend in the road. All the riders climbing while seated, in a reasonable gear, had electric shifting. The rest were grinding up in a way too high gear. The instant and drama free front and rear shifts are really nice on rides with lots of small rollers, or on these sudden situations.
Bunch of rollers? God I love auto-trim. |
Our area and bike club is an anomaly I’m sure but on a typical small group ride of 10-12 regulars we will easily be 50-50 mechanical vs Electronic sometimes even more electronic. During the bigger rides where we have 20 plus it’s still close to 35% electronic shifting. In peak winter season, our Saturday rides can easily have over 100 people with visitors and seasonal residents, always surprised at the number of electronic shifting. |
Originally Posted by RGMN
(Post 20461842)
I rode Di2 Ultegra for a season. Couldn't get it off the bike fast enough at the end of the season. Switched the bike to mechanical DA and was MUCH happier. But all my cars are manual transmission so I wasn't too surprised.
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Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 20461826)
I was on a group ride recently, and we hit an unexpected very short, steep climb at a bend in the road. All the riders climbing while seated, in a reasonable gear, had electric shifting. The rest were grinding up in a way too high gear. The instant and drama free front and rear shifts are really nice on rides with lots of small rollers, or on these sudden situations.
A couple of years ago, even one or two Di2 bikes out of 12-20 riders was somewhat unusual. Now I notice maybe two to six on a ride of that size. |
Originally Posted by oldnslow2
(Post 20461880)
Funny, but my Subaru shifts quicker and gets better MPG with the CVT vs the manual. All modern race cars have electronic shifting.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 20462083)
Some people still enjoy the feel of using a clutch pedal and physically moving the shifter from gear to gear. I miss it, but not in the city I drive in now.
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Originally Posted by RGMN
(Post 20461842)
I rode Di2 Ultegra for a season. Couldn't get it off the bike fast enough at the end of the season. Switched the bike to mechanical DA and was MUCH happier. But all my cars are manual transmission so I wasn't too surprised.
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I have put about 8000 miles on my R3 with 6870 since the beginning of 2015 and 4400 miles on my Roubaix with 6800 since the beginning of 2017. Di2 sure is nice. I am in the planning stages for my next bike and it's either going to have the new Dura Ace Di2 or eTap. I haven't decided yet. I can't warm up to that awful fugly Dura Ace crankset. |
On a 7 person group ride a few weeks ago, I was the only one with Di2, but I was also the ONLY one with rim brakes!
Sub-thread: What's the Di2 to disc brake ratio in your groups? |
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 20461826)
I was on a group ride recently, and we hit an unexpected very short, steep climb at a bend in the road. All the riders climbing while seated, in a reasonable gear, had electric shifting. The rest were grinding up in a way too high gear. The instant and drama free front and rear shifts are really nice on rides with lots of small rollers, or on these sudden situations.
A couple of years ago, even one or two Di2 bikes out of 12-20 riders was somewhat unusual. Now I notice maybe two to six on a ride of that size. |
Originally Posted by on the path
(Post 20462221)
Unexpected? Really? Was there a leader, was there any planning? Group rides I do the leader and perhaps others will give verbal warnings en route.. gravel, bad pavement ahead, tight turn, small ring, etc.
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