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Old 08-05-18, 01:44 PM
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Yesterday's ride was a tough one. Lots of hills. We have one that's well known around here for bring pretty tough. It came near the end of our ride. Long story short I had to stop near the top. I was just plain out of gas. I know I have to work on my endurance and strength. I didnt walk it. I took a breather and rode it out. What is a good rear cassette to use. I have a campy 10speed drivetrain. The cassette that is on the bike is a 12-25. What are good useable options. The crank is a compact.
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^ Pretty much it. That option will give you a noticeably lower gear, and depending on the length of your chain, may be the only change you need. You may need a longer chain depending on the current one is sized, and you might just want a new chain to go with a new cassette, particularly if the current chain has some wear.

Other opotions could give you a lower gear, but may bring on other changes, depending on the rest of your current setup
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The option, of course, is to leave the bike alone, and just to work on the endurance, and perhaps body weight.

Not everyone climbs with huge gears in the rear and tiny ones in front.
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I've seen the 11-29s I wondered if that was the easier option. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
The option, of course, is to leave the bike alone, and just to work on the endurance, and perhaps body weight.

Not everyone climbs with huge gears in the rear and tiny ones in front.
I have considered this as well. I'd like to have the lower gear option though.
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You can do both. Get the 29 and keep riding up the hill. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
The option, of course, is to leave the bike alone, and just to work on the endurance, and perhaps body weight.

Not everyone climbs with huge gears in the rear and tiny ones in front.
Depends a lot on terrain. There have been times in my life I've been well north of 4w/kg, and still wanted a 34/28, such as doing the US Pro Cycling Challenge course or racing Everest Challenge.

No shame in using an 11-29
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Originally Posted by Weakbikr
I have a campy 10speed drivetrain.
To all the above posters, there's no 11-29 for Campag 10 speed.

In official Campag options, your options are 12-27 or 12-30 in Centaur, or a 13-29 in Veloce. If you use a Miche cassette you can get a 12-29. You might have trouble with cage length if you have a short-cage derailleur, particularly if running a 12-29 or 12-30. You'd have to run the chain slightly too long (where it rubs in small-small combinations) to ensure that it is long enough to function in the big-big combination.
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Both my road bikes have a short cage derailleur and I was told that a 28 was as big as I could go.
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Originally Posted by raisinberry777
To all the above posters, there's no 11-29 for Campag 10 speed.

In official Campag options, your options are 12-27 or 12-30 in Centaur, or a 13-29 in Veloce. If you use a Miche cassette you can get a 12-29. You might have trouble with cage length if you have a short-cage derailleur, particularly if running a 12-29 or 12-30. You'd have to run the chain slightly too long (where it rubs in small-small combinations) to ensure that it is long enough to function in the big-big combination.
thank you for pointing that out. I'd swear I saw one somewhere but couldn't find it now. I found the options you listed. I'll get with my bike shop and see what they suggest after they check out the bike. Thank you.
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I appreciate all the responses. Very helpfl.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Both my road bikes have a short cage derailleur and I was told that a 28 was as big as I could go.
I run Di2 6770 short cage, and needed a little extra grunt for a couple hill climbs, so I picked up a Tiagra 11-30. Not knowing any better, or whether it would work or not, is the reasoning behind that choice. I put it on, and son of a gun if it didn't work.

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Ride more, and get stronger.

11-28 will work, but you'll lose a few gear ratios in the middle.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Ride more, and get stronger.

11-28 will work, but you'll lose a few gear ratios in the middle.
Except that there's no 11-28 available for Campagnolo 10 speed.
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Originally Posted by raisinberry777
Except that there's no 11-28 available for Campagnolo 10 speed.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cassette...tible/?geoc=US

Or just HTFU.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Well, fair enough. That price though!
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Originally Posted by raisinberry777
Well, fair enough. That price though!
No doubt.
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Originally Posted by raisinberry777
Well, fair enough. That price though!
The blurb says "Less pricy than Record or Chorus." ... Its a steal :-)

Reminds me why I like Tiagra 10sp cassettes at $20 a pop.
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Strategy can also help get you over long climbs. I don’t try to keep pace with riders who are way smaller or way more fit than me. I try to hold a pace that keeps me just under what I think I can handle for the climb. I feel like it allows me head room to go a little harder during steeper sections and then bring it back again as the climb flattens out. Most important is not to go so hard that you pop before you are close to the top.
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I'm still new to cycling. I know I have a lot to learn. I have a long way to go to get my strength and endurance in check. I'm not in terrible shape though. Just gotta keep chipping away at it.
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Road bike - 50/34 with an 11/32 11 speed cassette
TT bike - 54/44 with an 11/23 10 speed cassette
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+1 for getting wider range gearing. If lower gears help you do more riding, and spend more of each hill pedalling rather than walking, it can only help your fitness.
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Originally Posted by Weakbikr
thank you for pointing that out. I'd swear I saw one somewhere but couldn't find it now. I found the options you listed. I'll get with my bike shop and see what they suggest after they check out the bike. Thank you.
I have a 12-30 for my gravel bike and use it with a standard short cage Centaur RD with no issues. These are getting very hard to find now days since Centaur went to 11 speed. I bought mine from chain reaction cycles but they are showing out of stock now and I wonder if they will ever get them back in stock. Might want to try contacting them and see if they think they will get more:

Campagnolo Centaur 10 Speed Road Cassette | Chain Reaction Cycles
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Campy 13-29 for $40 if you don't need an 11 or 12. Some prefer the extra middle gears and are happy to coast if they run out of top end gear.
https://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-c.../10779835.html

You'll probably need a longer chain, unless yours is already a bit on the long side.
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