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Old 08-06-18, 08:15 AM
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Tablespoon of Blue Agave syrup, large pinch of salt in both.
Sometimes I add a sports tab if I want it to taste like something.
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IPA in one, espresso in the other. I thought you people were serious cyclists? Maybe it's just me.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
Water on the downtube, Gatorade on the seat tube.
All, please take note.

This is correct.


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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
Gatorade on the seat tube.
Originally Posted by TimothyH
All, please take note.

This is correct.


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Gatorade Sucks
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Gatorade Sucks
How so?
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Originally Posted by dennis336
For short work-day rides, just water, if anything at all. For longer weekend rides, especially if it's hot, I'll start with two bottles with electrolyte mix (Cytomax), then refill with water during the ride.
Minor hijack, but I have been using Cytomax and the latest batch I got tastes different (bitter) and is foamy which is also new. I don't know if they changed their formula or I just got a bad batch. Have you noticed??

p.s. sports drink in both bottles for me if ride >2 hours. Water if <2 hours.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Minor hijack, but I have been using Cytomax and the latest batch I got tastes different (bitter) and is foamy which is also new. I don't know if they changed their formula or I just got a bad batch. Have you noticed??

p.s. sports drink in both bottles for me if ride >2 hours. Water if <2 hours.
Interesting, I hadn't noticed any changes in the taste (although, I'm not very discerning!). btw, I'm also experimenting with chocolate milk for post ride recovery (or in yesterday's case, late ride) and pickles (I may look into bringing pickle juice with me as there's not always a deli on my rides to buy a cold pickle). Those two things seem to be helping with my after-ride soreness when i do long rides on hot days.
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Originally Posted by memebag
How so?
The 5 major electrolytes used by the body are Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate. Gatorade only contains sodium and potassium(and 21g of sugar per 12oz.).
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
The 5 major electrolytes used by the body are Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate. Gatorade only contains sodium and potassium(and 21g of sugar per 12oz.).
If i'm not mistaken(and i very well might be...) Sodium and potassium are the only two that an athlete might realistically deplete and suffer symptoms from during exercise...and potassium is a pretty distant 2nd to sodium.
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Generally 1 bottle of water. 2 if extra hot or far between water sources.

Hammer powder or whatever they give you on organized DCs, etc..

I regularly see folks carry 2 giant bottles no matter how short the ride, or carry a second full bottle from stop to stop all day.
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For me there are way too many variables to give a single answer to the poll. In 50F weather I can easily go 70 miles on bottles of water. However in 90F plus weather, two bottles of gatorade won’t last half that.

Originally Posted by noodle soup
The 5 major electrolytes used by the body are Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate. Gatorade only contains sodium and potassium(and 21g of sugar per 12oz.).
i like Gatorade because it’s cheap but on hard effort rides in the heat I am always battling cramps these days. What do you use instead of Gatorade?
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
The 5 major electrolytes used by the body are Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate. Gatorade only contains sodium and potassium(and 21g of sugar per 12oz.).
I'm not worried about the sugar. I use it to pedal the bike. The other electrolytes haven't been a problem so far. Gatorade is cheap ($10 for a can that makes 9 gallons) and works better than straight water for me.
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Originally Posted by Abe_Froman
If i'm not mistaken(and i very well might be...) Sodium and potassium are the only two that an athlete might realistically deplete and suffer symptoms from during exercise...and potassium is a pretty distant 2nd to sodium.
While sports drinks contain potassium, it is tightly regulated by the kidney and there is no need to replace it during exercise. A diet containing good amounts fruits and vegetables will provide enough for any healthy individual. Sodium replacement is important, particularly if water intake is high.
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When I switched from water to Gatorade this last time I immediately noticed salt residue on my clothes.
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr
i like Gatorade because it’s cheap but on hard effort rides in the heat I am always battling cramps these days. What do you use instead of Gatorade?
Nuun or Hammer Fizz
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Nuun or Hammer Fizz
I've tried Nuun. I couldn't detect any benefit over Gatorade.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Frozen Nuun or Hammer Fizz in one bottle, and ice water in the other.
I'm going to try this today. Saw your post last night, filled the bottles and left them in the freezer. I've been leaving them in there for an hour before I leave, but even with insulated bottles the cold just doesn't last that long.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Nuun or Hammer Fizz
I've used the Nuun. Its ok but haven't noticed less cramping with them. Problem with these electrolyte tablets is they don't have any appreciable amount of carbs so I have to carry additional gels when I use them. If I were to switch from Gatorade to the Hammer Heed sports mix to get the carbs, it costs 5-6 times as much as the Gatorade. Same concept for recovery drinks. I find Chocolate milk works for me just as well but costs a lot less than any 'recovery' drink.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I'm going to try this today. Saw your post last night, filled the bottles and left them in the freezer. I've been leaving them in there for an hour before I leave, but even with insulated bottles the cold just doesn't last that long.
It works well for me.

After an hour or so, in 100+ heat, the frozen bottle is about half melted. By the end of the the second bottle, I'm 35-40 miles into a ride, and will just refill at a convenience store.
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr
I've used the Nuun. Its ok but haven't noticed less cramping with them. Problem with these electrolyte tablets is they don't have any appreciable amount of carbs so I have to carry additional gels when I use them. If I were to switch from Gatorade to the Hammer Heed sports mix to get the carbs, it costs 5-6 times as much as the Gatorade. Same concept for recovery drinks. I find Chocolate milk works for me just as well but costs a lot less than any 'recovery' drink.
Yea. I think a lot of sports nutrition is way overthought. All of the things available for purchase, whether meant for on the bike or recovery, whatever, are some combination of water, carbs, salt, protein. None of this stuff is particularly hard to come by in normal non sports laboratory life.
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr
I've used the Nuun. Its ok but haven't noticed less cramping with them. Problem with these electrolyte tablets is they don't have any appreciable amount of carbs so I have to carry additional gels when I use them. If I were to switch from Gatorade to the Hammer Heed sports mix to get the carbs, it costs 5-6 times as much as the Gatorade. Same concept for recovery drinks. I find Chocolate milk works for me just as well but costs a lot less than any 'recovery' drink.
For me, that's the benefit of Nuun over a lot of other ones. A tab is about 5 kcal. I get enough calories from food, I don't need more in my drinks.

Agree about recovery drinks though. Whole milk works great for me.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
For me, that's the benefit of Nuun over a lot of other ones. A tab is about 5 kcal. I get enough calories from food, I don't need more in my drinks.
It's also nice to be able to carry a couple of tablets to use when you refill.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I get enough calories from food, I don't need more in my drinks.
Are you referring to calories taken in while on the bike or off the bike before the ride?

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It's also nice to be able to carry a couple of tablets to use when you refill.
This is where I do like the Nuun tablets. If I end up having to refill the water bottles where the water doesn't taste as good, they make it easier to stay hydrated because you're not fighting the taste.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
It's also nice to be able to carry a couple of tablets to use when you refill.
A tube fits real well in a jersey pocket, like you can forget they're there. I just washed mine and realized I didn't have any more brawndo about 20 miles in yesterday. Bummer.
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Originally Posted by rgconner
Tablespoon of Blue Agave syrup, large pinch of salt in both.
Sometimes I add a sports tab if I want it to taste like something.
Agave syrup is almost pure fructose, I'd recommend switching to something with glucose or sucrose as the main sugar. If you want to stay "natural" use honey instead
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