What's with the faux camo kit?
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What's with the faux camo kit?
Camouflage patterns with bright colors supposedly "disrupt" the background. I don't believe it. They certainly don't disrupt the background as much as a plain white or some other bright color jersey without a camo pattern.
More importantly, do people actually think they look good? There was a guy with bullets on his wheels and everyone was fawning over his death bike. Maybe the same people like camo jerseys, I don't know.
Why would a road rider buy camo or brightly colored faux camo "disruptor" jerseys? I'm sincerely trying to understand.
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More importantly, do people actually think they look good? There was a guy with bullets on his wheels and everyone was fawning over his death bike. Maybe the same people like camo jerseys, I don't know.
Why would a road rider buy camo or brightly colored faux camo "disruptor" jerseys? I'm sincerely trying to understand.
-Tim-
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Stop worrying so much about what other people are wearing.
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"Why are people allowed to like things different than I like? Can't somebody do something about this?"
My wife is off-the-charts crazy,. I know that because she is very much in love with me after all these years.
By your reasoning .. . you should be very much in love with me too, because after all, we can't have individuals with varied tastes. We all have to like the same things.
You might be a strong rider, and a very strong photographer ... but you are a feeble troll.
My wife is off-the-charts crazy,. I know that because she is very much in love with me after all these years.
By your reasoning .. . you should be very much in love with me too, because after all, we can't have individuals with varied tastes. We all have to like the same things.
You might be a strong rider, and a very strong photographer ... but you are a feeble troll.
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No ones going to find your high vis kit fashionable no matter how hard you try Tim. But to answer your question plenty of us don't believe the color of our kit matters in terms of visibility and lights are where it's at when you want to be seen.
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I have a camo jersey, and it's not even disruptor-- it's regular desert camo, you know, beige/tan/brown stuff. Seeing as camouflage only really works when stationary against a like-colored background, it doesn't really matter at all.
Wanna be invisible? Spray-paint everything matte neutral gray. Bike, tires, helmet, clothes, skin, everything. Would eliminate 90% of contrast. Excellent way to get run over. If that's your thing.
I really like the LeCol camo jerseys in camo, like this one-- but I'm waaayyyy to cheap to pay what they're asking for it.
Wanna be invisible? Spray-paint everything matte neutral gray. Bike, tires, helmet, clothes, skin, everything. Would eliminate 90% of contrast. Excellent way to get run over. If that's your thing.
I really like the LeCol camo jerseys in camo, like this one-- but I'm waaayyyy to cheap to pay what they're asking for it.
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Maybe they wear Special Ops sunglasses and want to complete the look/kit.
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Is camo "pattern" the same as camo "colors", then you have camo "color pattern"? Is it designed to blend in or to grab attention?
Why care about other's choices? Liking it should be more than enough for them. I really want to understand why others feel the need "to sincerely understand" other's choices. Such busy bodies.
Nah, I really don't want to understand. They don't need my approval.
Why care about other's choices? Liking it should be more than enough for them. I really want to understand why others feel the need "to sincerely understand" other's choices. Such busy bodies.
Nah, I really don't want to understand. They don't need my approval.
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Camouflage is just about breaking up the silhouette. But the ability of the garment to break up that silhouette is 100% dependent on the colors not contrasting with the background.
Any color combination can become camouflage under the right circumstances. A guy wearing fluorescent orange, when riding directly into the sunset becomes invisible.
So "actual" camouflage-- greens and browns and stuff-- isn't going to behave as camouflage for a typical cyclist. It's not going to magically render their torso invisible.
Any color combination can become camouflage under the right circumstances. A guy wearing fluorescent orange, when riding directly into the sunset becomes invisible.
So "actual" camouflage-- greens and browns and stuff-- isn't going to behave as camouflage for a typical cyclist. It's not going to magically render their torso invisible.
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"Worry about what other people wear" are your words, not mine.
I asked about disrupting the background and whether people think they look good.
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I asked about disrupting the background and whether people think they look good.
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Besides what NS said, it's not only this thread. You make threads weekly-ish (and posts within them) about what other people are wearing, how much it bothers you, why can't they wear things that meet your approval, and your hopes that wearing the right kit will send specific signals to your riding buddies. Clearly we're not the only two who have noticed this. In this context, yeah this thread is exactly "worrying about what other people wear", along with that being a perfectly acceptable paraphrasing and interpretation of your OP.
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Yeah, I know what I wrote.
I guess the fact that people are buying the stuff means that they think it looks good. That's fair enough. I don't, but it isn't a big deal.
My main point, and apologies for not being clear, is that a brightly colored camo jersey doesn't disrupt the background or make anyone more visible than a plain jersey with the same bright color. The camo might disrupt the background but a plain jersey of the same color will disrupt the background more effectively and make one more visible.
In fact, I believe the claim that so called "disruptor" camo is an aid to visibility is specious at best and many time it makes one less visible, not more. The random design certainly doesn't help visibility. I believe it is nothing more than a fashion trend and that "disruptor" is just a made up marketing thing.
Are there studies or actual data proving that "disruptor" camo is effective?
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I guess the fact that people are buying the stuff means that they think it looks good. That's fair enough. I don't, but it isn't a big deal.
My main point, and apologies for not being clear, is that a brightly colored camo jersey doesn't disrupt the background or make anyone more visible than a plain jersey with the same bright color. The camo might disrupt the background but a plain jersey of the same color will disrupt the background more effectively and make one more visible.
In fact, I believe the claim that so called "disruptor" camo is an aid to visibility is specious at best and many time it makes one less visible, not more. The random design certainly doesn't help visibility. I believe it is nothing more than a fashion trend and that "disruptor" is just a made up marketing thing.
Are there studies or actual data proving that "disruptor" camo is effective?
-Tim-
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Besides what NS said, it's not only this thread. You make threads weekly-ish (and posts within them) about what other people are wearing, how much it bothers you, why can't they wear things that meet your approval, and your hopes that wearing the right kit will send specific signals to your riding buddies. Clearly we're not the only two who have noticed this. In this context, yeah this thread is exactly "worrying about what other people wear", along with that being a perfectly acceptable paraphrasing and interpretation of your OP.
Your offense is self inflicted. Feel free to click out.
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I was going to check out your blog... think I will pass now.
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The first step is to stop worrying about what other people are wearing and whether it accomplishes what they intend or believe it does. They're going to wear what they like, and it shouldn't affect you. Your issue isn't really with the camo jersey or the Hi-Viz jersey or whatever you'll see this weekend, it's that it's not what you prefer and your concern that this means either they or you do not fit into the group. Just let that go. It's stress you don't need.
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What about "disruptor" camo?
Does it work?
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Does it work?
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Dude ... I sincerely doubt anyone cares if their "disruptor" camo jerseys do anything but look good to the purchaser and/or wearer. I had never heard the term, and I have never wondered if camo made me harder or easier to see.
Unlike yourself, i am not consumed by a need to have any particular appearance ... and in fact realize that everyone sees something different when they see me ... if they even see me.
But hey ... if the most important thing on your mind is what's on your body ... that's you. Be you.
Unlike yourself, i am not consumed by a need to have any particular appearance ... and in fact realize that everyone sees something different when they see me ... if they even see me.
But hey ... if the most important thing on your mind is what's on your body ... that's you. Be you.
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Camouflage patterns with bright colors supposedly "disrupt" the background. I don't believe it. They certainly don't disrupt the background as much as a plain white or some other bright color jersey without a camo pattern.
More importantly, do people actually think they look good? There was a guy with bullets on his wheels and everyone was fawning over his death bike. Maybe the same people like camo jerseys, I don't know.
Why would a road rider buy camo or brightly colored faux camo "disruptor" jerseys? I'm sincerely trying to understand.
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More importantly, do people actually think they look good? There was a guy with bullets on his wheels and everyone was fawning over his death bike. Maybe the same people like camo jerseys, I don't know.
Why would a road rider buy camo or brightly colored faux camo "disruptor" jerseys? I'm sincerely trying to understand.
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