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Old 09-09-18, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
For city riding with lots of starts and stops, these are about the worst wheels you could get.

You want an alu brake track, and you want light. High-profile (50mm+) wheels may be more aero, and look kewl, but this extra material is heavy, at the worst possible place on a bike.

I recommend some lightweight low-profile alu rims, which means 28+ spokes per wheel. So old-school.
Those wheels are pretty light to aero for the price, but even they where heavy and not the most efficient opcion... they look so kool and that's what the OP is looking for.

Is like telling a Russian hot girl, hey those sexy high heels you're wearing are not the best option to walk on the streets with all those holes and steps, I think some Adidas Cloudsoft-foamsole sneakers would be much comfortable option.
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Originally Posted by FullSpeedAgain
Those wheels are pretty light to aero for the price, but even they where heavy and not the most efficient opcion... they look so kool and that's what the OP is looking for.
Is like telling a Russian hot girl, hey those sexy high heels you're wearing are not the best option to walk on the streets with all those holes and steps, I think some Adidas Cloudsoft-foamsole sneakers would be much comfortable option.
Got it. But who(m) is impressed with deep dish wheels, or anything on a bike for that matter? Anybody with two X chromosomes? Least of all the proverbial: 'Russian Hot Girl'. For that you'll want a $10 million apartment in downtown Moscow, a 7 x 24 private security detail, a dedicated French chef, and an armor-plated Rolls.
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Got it. But who(m) is impressed with deep dish wheels, or anything on a bike for that matter?
The OP - is that good enough for you?
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I have 50mm super team clinchers. You can actually get matte black non-branded ones on Amazon from the same seller that sells it with the superteam logo. Great wheelset. Still true but only 300 miles on mine. Better than Zipp carbons as far as I'm concerned. Was actually thinking of just buying an extra set just in case prices go higher.
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
But who(m) is impressed with deep dish wheels, or anything on a bike for that matter? Anybody with two X chromosomes?
Emm.... probably someone who came here not to judge others and not to be judged?
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All - my understanding is main downside of full carbon wheels is breaking efficiency, especially in a rainy weather -- aluminum is better. I also found on Amazon wheels with basalt breaking surface. Is this sort of BS, or it's a real thing??

I prefer to buy from Amazon or some reputable US dealer: too afraid to order directly from China and dealing with them if they send some defective wheels.

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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
Yes, those Mavics look solid and come from reputable brand, but they're only 30mm, and I - silly me, I admin - mostly going for the look (50mm), not carbon itself

If there only was aluminum "aero" rims....
There are. Bracciano A42W Pro Lite has some pretty good wheels for under $400 that have been consistently well reviewed by journalists. However, being deep rim & alloy means they'll be a bit weighty but living/working in Manhattan means that won't be too much of an issue as you won't have any large hills or mountains to climb up. However, taking off from stoplights/signs will be a bit sluggish over lighter wheels, but I'd take these any day of the week over cheap Chinese carbon.
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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
All - my understanding is main downside of full carbon wheels is breaking efficiency, especially in a rainy weather -- aluminum is better. I also found on Amazon wheels with basalt breaking surface. Is this sort of BS, or it's a real thing??

I prefer to buy from Amazon or some reputable US dealer: too afraid to order directly from China and dealing with them if they send some defective wheels.
Beware, Amazon has been known to be infiltrated with cheap Chinese knockoffs of almost every product. So, when it comes to cycling products, I actually do my best to stay away from Amazon and stick with reputable dealers, such as the manufacturer's website directly or Chainreaction, Wiggle, Probikekit, Competitivecyclist, etc.
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Originally Posted by Psychocycles
There are. Bracciano A42W Pro Lite has some pretty good wheels for under $400 that have been consistently well reviewed by journalists. However, being deep rim & alloy means they'll be a bit weighty but living/working in Manhattan means that won't be too much of an issue as you won't have any large hills or mountains to climb up. However, taking off from stoplights/signs will be a bit sluggish over lighter wheels, but I'd take these any day of the week over cheap Chinese carbon.
Hmm.... interesting choice, I did not see them, thanks a lot! Been looking in Campagnolo Scirocco, Vision Team 35, Fulcrum Quattro LG - but these are even deeper!

Quick question: are they OK running 25mm tires? Not super familiar with this topic.

As of be a bit sluggish - are they going to be more sluggish than my "stock" Bontrager TRL wheels?

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Beware, Amazon has been known to be infiltrated with cheap Chinese knockoffs of almost every product.
Yes - but if I received a knock-off, I always have 30 days to return it But point taken.

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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
Yes, those Mavics look solid and come from reputable brand, but they're only 30mm, and I - silly me, I admin - mostly going for the look (50mm), not carbon itself

If there only was aluminum "aero" rims....
Campagnolo Bullet Ultra
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Yes, but they're essentially carbon wheels.... and cost accordingly
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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
Hmm.... interesting choice, I did not see them, thanks a lot! Been looking in Campagnolo Scirocco, Vision Team 35, Fulcrum Quattro LG - but these are even deeper!

Quick question: are they OK running 25mm tires? Not super familiar with this topic.

As of be a bit sluggish - are they going to be more sluggish than my "stock" Bontrager TRL wheels?
There is the old version, which is 13mm internal diameter and the new version, which is 18.9mm internal diameter. Both diameters should safely work with 25c tires but you'll see quite a bulb with 25c tires and the old rim, so if you can I'd try to find the new wider rim version. And as for the sluggishness, it's hard to say. I can't get specs on the new version's weights but the old wheels weighed almost 1900 g, so stock wheel territory.
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Hmm.... ended up ordering Vision Team 35: $257 from Merlin with tyres.
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Good you decided against carbon for commuting.
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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
Hmm.... ended up ordering Vision Team 35: $257 from Merlin with tyres.
I think you won't regret it. Those are solid wheels for the price
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Good you decided against carbon for commuting.
Why???

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I think you won't regret it. Those are solid wheels for the price
I guess this can be said for practically any wheels?
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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
I guess this can be said for practically any wheels?
No, some wheels are demonstrably weak, flimsy, or not stiff, especially at this price point.
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Originally Posted by fmilovanov
Why???
Because carbon wheels for commuting is a really bad idea. Poor braking. Hit a pothole or a rock and they are ruined.

Didn't you read your own thread??
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Originally Posted by datlas
Because carbon wheels for commuting is a really bad idea. Poor braking. Hit a pothole or a rock and they are ruined.

Didn't you read your own thread??
I did, and the consensus was braking would be slightly worse in the rain (I don't ride much in the rain), and I should probably go for it.
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I did, and the consensus was braking would be slightly worse in the rain (I don't ride much in the rain), and I should probably go for it.
It's a moot point for you, but in case anyone searches this thread....from someone who has lots of experience with both carbon and aluminum rims, I believe that carbon rims for commuting (especially in the rain and in possibly crappy roads) is not wise.

It can be done, but I would not recommend it.
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