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Old 10-10-18, 12:42 PM
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7200 Lumen Lupine Alpha Road Light

After more then a year of speculation and waiting, this morning Lupine of North America just received the first batch of 7200 Lumen Alpha Road Lamps and look forward to mine on Friday..I been waiting and waiting for this beast to show up as everyone knows the 5500 Lumen BettyR was not adequate enough...This should know give me plenty of "GENUINE" Lumens for my early road rides in Sri Lanka shortly...
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7200 lumen? Does it come with a battery backpack?
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So, you just spent $1,300 on a light that's too bright to use on the street and 10x what you'd need on the trail? Gotta hear the explanation for this one.
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Cool! When will you be trying out the new light? I'll watch for the glow on the horizon(s).
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I will think back fondly to this thread when I'm coming down a moderate steep descent @ 30mph, with my 700 lumen headlight on the medium setting.

Generally, the less ambient light there is, the less lumens you need. So this would be a headlight for use... umm... during the day? To compete with the sun? I have no idea.
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7200 lumen? Does it come with a battery backpack?
Yes it does require its own "INHOUSE" Dedicated battery pack to drive this beast..! It also is different then all the other lupine batteries as the voltage is now 14 something now to the 7V required to drive the Betty's..You have to buy it in a kit form also...
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7200 lumens? As an airplane landing light or spotlight, maybe. For a bicycle? You've got to be kidding.
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The Lupine Lighting Systems Alpha performance off-road racing light looks very impressive. It is a little pricey at Ä1,080. The site lists that product as currently not available.

The voltage rating for the two-pole Europlug wall wart isn't listed, so it's currently unknown if that will work in the US using an adapter.

The headlight has a mobile phone application and a Bluetooth remote control.
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So, you just spent $1,300 on a light that's too bright to use on the street and 10x what you'd need on the trail? Gotta hear the explanation for this one.
he is worried about the space shuttle running into him from orbit.

1500 is your average car headlight lumens so this is... well, illegal on the street.
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7200 lumens? As an airplane landing light or spotlight, maybe. For a bicycle? You've got to be kidding.
Actually about aircracft landing lights...

Aircraft landing lights

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he is worried about the space shuttle running into him from orbit.

1500 is your average car headlight lumens so this is... well, illegal on the street.
Depends on where you live....the USA, generally, is very fast and loose about regulating (if at all) light brightness on streets.
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Actually about aircracft landing lights...

Aircraft landing lights



Depends on where you live....the USA, generally, is very fast and loose about regulating (if at all) light brightness on streets.
California has been quite... enthusiastic about ticketing people where I live.
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California has been quite... enthusiastic about ticketing people where I live.
What types of infractions attracts the ire of the local enthusiastic enforcement of statutes?
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post

Generally, the less ambient light there is, the less lumens you need. So this would be a headlight for use... umm... during the day? To compete with the sun? I have no idea.
It's for melting the snow off the road ahead of you on those cold winter rides.
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What types of infractions attracts the ire of the local enthusiastic enforcement of statutes?

Hot LED lights, extra lights especially on motorcycles (fog lights), and running blue/red LEDs under the wheel wells/bumpers. Turning on those big bar lights on offroaders.

Been pulled over for my motorcycle headlight being too high, fortunately he gave me a warning. A bolt had worked loose and it had vibrated kinda high. Reached over and pointed it back down and he was happy.

Had a buddy pulled over on his KTM 1200 for leaving his offroad lights on. Those things are damn hot.

Oh and a group of Uber/Lyft drivers decking out their cars like mobile discoteks for the Friday/Saturday pub crawl crowds.
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California has been quite... enthusiastic about ticketing people where I live.
on BICYCLES?

I wish they would do some enforcing on the freeway - I've been subject to some impossibly bright headlights behind me recently and it's annoying and distracting.

Keep jacking the thread folks, it only adds to its eventual value.
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I have a 1300 lumen spot on the boat, where itís pretty useful, The beam is highly concentrated, so itís brighter than any headlight and I canít conceive of a use for light like that on land except maybe for SAR or law enforcement. Lights that bright are difficult to use because the return from any nearby reflective object will blind they user and they make zero sense as headlights.
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My $50 Chinese headlamp is 1600 lumens on full power. I could see 7200 for mtb trail riding in the evening as there's less sunlight hours.

You gotta post pictures!
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So, you just spent $1,300 on a light that's too bright to use on the street and 10x what you'd need on the trail? Gotta hear the explanation for this one.
Yah it was not very "BUDGET FRIENDLY" at all..!
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Cool! When will you be trying out the new light? I'll watch for the glow on the horizon(s).

Suppose to be here friday UPS shipment and looking forward to firing it up for my Saturday am ride on the MUPS at 0430am..
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My $50 Chinese headlamp is 1600 lumens on full power.
Theoretically, allegedly... add your own adjective but you are not getting 1600 lumens out of any chinese lamp that is advertised as 1600 lumens.
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Theoretically, allegedly... add your own adjective but you are not getting 1600 lumens out of any chinese lamp that is advertised as 1600 lumens.
True. OTOH, remember-lumens is a unit of flux and not brightness.
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So, you just spent $1,300 on a light that's too bright to use on the street and 10x what you'd need on the trail? Gotta hear the explanation for this one.
For me the explanation is actually runtime, not brightness.

You don't have to run a 7200 lumen light at 7200 lumens and running it at lower power extends runtime. I'll bet this thing can run from dusk to dawn at 1000 lumens.

I'm looking at the Lupine Piko R 7 Smartcore for the same reason - extended burn time. 1800 lumens is more than anyone will need but it will run for 7 hours at 750 lumens.

They said the same thing when I bought an Exposure Strada 1200 - too bright, a waste, etc. Again, the point is time, not power. It burns 3 hours at 1200 lumens but can easily run six hours if dropped to lower power when full brightness isn't needed. I rode 53 miles last night and it still had 63% charge. It will run >10 hours at 350 lumens.

Even apart from runtime, Lupine lights are state of the art even when judged against other German made lights. Their quick release handlebar mount puts everyone else to shame and the electronics are second to none.


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True. OTOH, remember-lumens is a unit of flux and not brightness.
Besides which, the 1600 lumens from the chinese clones is a theoretical math exercise and not anything measurable once they build it out. I think the real output of those lights tends to be around 700 or so, which is still plenty good for riding a bike.
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My $50 Chinese headlamp is 1600 lumens on full power. I could see 7200 for mtb trail riding in the evening as there's less sunlight hours.

You gotta post pictures!
Only 17 posts before someone spoke the obvious. The ad was useless (a red flag) and the thread is meaningless without them.
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For me the explanation is actually runtime, not brightness.

You don't have to run a 7200 lumen light at 7200 lumens and running it at lower power extends runtime. I'll bet this thing can run from dusk to dawn at 1000 lumens.
The Lupine Lighting Systems 6.9Ah Alpha Li-ion battery is paired w/ an excellent Alpha Charger One smart battery charger / maintainer.

At some point that fancy / expensive 6.9Ah battery will deteriorate, from cycles, from time and from storage conditions, requiring replacement to maintain acceptable run time.

It is likely that battery replacement cost will exceed the cost of a complete high-end headlight system. My Outbound Lighting Road Edition Headlight includes a 6.4Ah battery pack that could be replaced for a reasonable cost when it ages and fails to provide acceptable run time.

If extended run time is desired / required, then just get / carry a spare battery pack for a normal high-end headlight, instead of this over-the-tip-top solution.

This Lupine Lighting Systems Alpha headlight is touted for off road racing.
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