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New American Bike Company

Old 10-12-18, 06:19 PM
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New American Bike Company

There's a new bike company that has sprung up in Chicago. They are making some really nice looking CX bikes that can be used as Gravel Bikes as well. Lots of clearance and the geometry from the pictures looks good.

https://www.kumabicyclecompany.com/

You can get a jump on the competition now and tell me how they are. I'd buy one but at the moment I have 10 bikes in my garage and my wife says that most of them have to go.
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maufactured in America? Looks like very other generic open mold matte black Chinese frame expect with some generic branding stenciled on it and for twice the money. And a 6 week lead time. Sound to me like you pay them $1000 then they order frame from China for $450, wait for it to arrive, put on their decals and send it to you. Website makes me even more skeptical.
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I have 10 bikes in my garage and my wife says that most of them have to go.
Plenty more fish in the sea.
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Old 10-12-18, 07:27 PM
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Anyone who buys from them is a fool! The website is a hot mess and loads of red flags left and right on how bull**** it is. No geometry chart, multiple grammar fails and just an overall “super sketchy” appearance.
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Originally Posted by cyclintom View Post
There's a new bike company that has sprung up in Chicago. They are making some really nice looking CX bikes that can be used as Gravel Bikes as well. Lots of clearance and the geometry from the pictures looks good.

https://www.kumabicyclecompany.com/

You can get a jump on the competition now and tell me how they are. I'd buy one but at the moment I have 10 bikes in my garage and my wife says that most of them have to go.
10 is good number. About enough that you can add another without her noticing.
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Old 10-12-18, 11:00 PM
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Is this an ad?
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The biggest red flag to me is that they don't have a phone number. There has long been a strong correlation between good businesses and prominent display of their phone number on their website.
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There is only one assemble bike for each type
No way would I even consider this company.
No description of manufacturing process, showing what makes them different than others.
Only a single picture for fatbike, no detail at all.
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Can't say I'd trust the fork on that CX bike.. from the specs:
"Frame & Fork weight is 1550g frame & 45g fork"
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It says Kumba Bicycle Company LLC

Chicago?

Illinois Secretary of State says its registered and the name is Heather A. Hall
1526 S. Wabash Avenue Apt 300, Chicago IL 60605

Google Earth says its near Soldiers Field, home of the Chicago Bears
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Soooo scary of a company. How in the heck do you call them...giant red flag. Most legit company’s are more than happy to have a number to call.

How ever on the other hand this is pretty smart if anyone falls for it. Think about it they have no costs. You order a frame. You pay they take your money use less than half for a cheap eBay frame or like and pocket the rest. They don’t even do complete bikes from what I can find.
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Looking at their facebook page...it appears they've only ever made 3 frames. Judging from the entirety of their online presence anyway.
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I especially enjoyed the following line on their home page: "Interesting specs for your knowledge pleasure"
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From their website...

Not sure what size? Measure your inside leg, and your inner sanctum, based on this handy chart below.
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The Big OEM factories already ship to importers around the Globe,
under many brand names
You may just have found another client company , Reselling those imports..
badged with their name.

So unless you have walkaround in the factory pictures of the happy workers,
not just the bikes ,
I'll assume they don't make the frames /forks,
but buy them and assemble the bilkes ,
much like most retail shops can do,
if given a frame and fork to work on..
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Plenty more fish in the sea.
Not after you've been hooked.
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"Your frame will arrive in 1.5 months, or 6 weeks."

Slow boat from Taiwan(if you're lucky).
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OMG, that is ridiculously funny!!!
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Originally Posted by cyclintom View Post
There's a new bike company that has sprung up in Chicago. They are making some really nice looking CX bikes that can be used as Gravel Bikes as well. Lots of clearance and the geometry from the pictures looks good.

https://www.kumabicyclecompany.com/

You can get a jump on the competition now and tell me how they are. I'd buy one but at the moment I have 10 bikes in my garage and my wife says that most of them have to go.
look a like you are the only one so far to say they would buy one.
so its up to you to sell a bike and get one of these in its place.

I wonder how well fenders fit on it...
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look a like you are the only one so far to say they would buy one.
so its up to you to sell a bike and get one of these in its place.

I wonder how well fenders fit on it...
Well according to so many people here 42 mm tires and full fenders make a race setup. I have a Redline Conquest that you might like for only $1000
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The biggest red flag to me is that they don't have a phone number. There has long been a strong correlation between good businesses and prominent display of their phone number on their website.
That depends on the size of the business and also its nature. If it's a very small business, having a publicly-posted phone number will likely cause more trouble than it's worth. Manning a telephone is almost a full-time job, and distracts people from getting real work done. Real business communication is best handled by email, and anything that really needs to be discussed in real-time can be handled with a pre-scheduled phone call or teleconference. Having a phone number posted just invites spammers, telemarketers, etc.
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That depends on the size of the business and also its nature. If it's a very small business, having a publicly-posted phone number will likely cause more trouble than it's worth. Manning a telephone is almost a full-time job, and distracts people from getting real work done. Real business communication is best handled by email, and anything that really needs to be discussed in real-time can be handled with a pre-scheduled phone call or teleconference. Having a phone number posted just invites spammers, telemarketers, etc.
Do you really think someone that is interested in buying a bike frame is going to schedule a phone call to talk about it? I can call the Chinese company that makes that frame and talk to someone right now and get the frame from them for half the price (or Skype, live chat, or email and have it returned within an hour). If you can't provide that level of support why would I spend 2x the money on a frame from you?

It's pretty cheap and easy to have a customer service phone number and outsource it to India or Philippines
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From their website...



My inner sanctum measurements are between me and my doctor.
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A. I probably know this person. It's a small community even for a large city and if they're calling a bike "Montrose" after our final race in the series then they know me whether I know them or not.

B. This smacks greatly of a conversation I had with a guy who was riding with the local Rapha club out to the last race in the Intelli series this summer. An industry friend introduced him to me and as he learned about what I do he mentioned he had been wanting to start bringing in frames - looking at these markets in particular. I told him not to as he would have his ass handed to him readily. That I have spent 10 years watching people like him go out of business.

C. It's definitely not a full time gig. Those of you who were around here long enough to remember when I started I didn't have a phone number listed either. I also had a bad reputation for not responding to everything quickly and sometimes at all. Doesn't mean I wasn't able to build a company and make a lot of kick ass wheels. Also - Millennial... they don't use phones. If it is the guy I am thinking then yeah - Millennial.

D. Sure it's imported and most likely 'Open mold" or "Buy in OEM". Who cares. It either works or it doesn't and if he's done his due diligence and legwork then it's worth it to have a US entity that is on the hook.

E. I don't like the initial post - we used to not let shills and commercials in here but if it's a legit post then my apologies.

F. - if you own the company and know me then drop me a line. If not and I can't figure it out I'm running it up the Chicago cycling FB flagpole so I can find out. Thanks.
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