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Old 11-22-18, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle View Post
The issue is mostly price i cant afford a shwalbe pro one at 80 bucks a tire 1 hole and it will never seal or work right again.?so i get them at 40 ish . merlin has the gp4ks2 a pair is like 60 something Now . and thats just mouth watering.

A race/ training tire should not be over 50 bucks maybe 60 usd.
The gp4ks2 is hands down the best tire out . i cant think of any other tire i would use . maybe the corsa gs at around 40 usd . i could give the ultra sports a try at 15 bucks if picked up a set of spare wheels .
the crowd is pretty decided on what the best tire is . thats really the point conti makes these new claims but in the it will be tested by the masses and id put money on the tires being worse based on everything getting worse . giving people a better tire isnt going to benefit the customer it will benefit the company .
IT is a free market..... If you want a tire as good as the 4000sII for less than $50 maybe you should enter the manufacturing business and create/sell in the hole that Conti left behind?
I mean if it was that good of a tire, then the hole Conti left in the market should be a pretty lucrative business deal for you.

but....... It's easier to complain, than it is to compete?

by the way Continental owes you NOTHING! they offered a tire, and now they don't. I have yet to hear why it was bad for them, Only why it was bad for you. Unfortunately that's the way it is in 2018 and will be worse in 2019 and even more so in 2020. Because its a me me me world and if people don't get what they want. Tantrums abound!
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Pardon my ignorance, but is the gp4ks2 a tubeless tyre?
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
Pardon my ignorance, but is the gp4ks2 a tubeless tyre?
No it isn't

and the Newer replacement, the GP5000 will come in two flavors, tubeless, or the standard clincher.
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Old 11-30-18, 10:10 PM
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Anyone ridden these tires yet? And how big do the 25s and 28s get on 19mm inner rim width wheels?
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle View Post
Giving people a better tire isnt going to benefit the customer it will benefit the company .
That is a truly bizarre statement.
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Yes, I use this tires whit fulcrum racing 3 and they keep pressure I 1st day. UST tires are the perfect solution for tubeless.
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Originally Posted by SHBR View Post
Bicycle tire performance does not scale all that well above $50USD/tire in my experience.

The GP5000s at or below $50USD?

Not likely.
In true industry form - even though they really just became available here the UK is already selling them for roughly this. It's like watching a train wreck.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Sure, but you're comparing the new retail with the street price - I'm sure that the Conti will come down. Also, I haven't ridden the Pro One, but I don't think that anyone has ever accused them of being long-wearing. I would be shocked if the Contis weren't good for significantly more mileage than the Schwalbes.
Both my Schwallbe one clinchers and Schwalbe Pro One tubless have been bery durable. They significantly out lasted two sets of GP4000s I have owned, both of which died early deaths due to sidewall cuts.
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Cool. My Compass tires are no longer the silliest most expensively priced road bike tires.
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Cool. My Compass tires are no longer the silliest most expensively priced road bike tires.
yeah?
keep wishing!
and as for everyone else crying about the price.....

https://ciclimattio.com/s/continenta...o999SHXBSeb2qc
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Originally Posted by Metieval View Post
yeah?
keep wishing!
and as for everyone else crying about the price.....

https://ciclimattio.com/s/continenta...o999SHXBSeb2qc
I’ve never heard of this (Italian?) on-line bike shop. If they are legit and really selling the new Grand Prix 5000 tires for just $41.88 US dollars that would be fantastic - the Euro price was also listed as “41.88” in Euros, so which one is right. Is, this legit?
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Originally Posted by masi61 View Post


I’ve never heard of this (Italian?) on-line bike shop. If they are legit and really selling the new Grand Prix 5000 tires for just $41.88 US dollars that would be fantastic - the Euro price was also listed as “41.88” in Euros, so which one is right. Is, this legit?
legit? no idea

the Euro price is

€ 36,88 btw

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60US$ with a free tube from PBK right now. Double the price of the 4000S II but you can get them in 32C.
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Originally Posted by masi61 View Post


I’ve never heard of this (Italian?) on-line bike shop. If they are legit and really selling the new Grand Prix 5000 tires for just $41.88 US dollars that would be fantastic - the Euro price was also listed as “41.88” in Euros, so which one is right. Is, this legit?
this is still up. Can get a set of 24mm tires for 107usd. Im tempted to get these through paypal so if it less than honest i can get my money back.
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https://www.merlincycles.com/contine...ir-129803.html

I have a pair on my Madone. They feel plasticky but are super fast and really sticky. I'll buy the tubeless version once they wear out.
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I have gone through 6 Schwalbe Pro One's and although fast and handle great, they are not durable. I have seen mixed reviews. A few club members have tried these Conti 5000 tubeless and said the same thing. Fast but with a plastic feel. No complaints.
I found this place with a better price... They are in Germany. I will report back after I put on a few hundred miles.

Even with the pricey shipping they are cheaper than $95 a tire in the USA.
https://www.rosebikes.com/continenta...e_size=700x28C
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I'm looking forward to reading/heading about real life reviews of these Conti tubeless tyres. I have never been a member of 'Cult Conti' but maybe I can be won over. Provided of course the Kool-Aid is cherry flavoured. I've never been a grape guy.
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I am sure it's a great product. I have had good results from the 4000 model, I even have Conti
Winter Contact on my '96 M3 but at that price, the bike tire is 'over inflated'
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No judgements. Just sayin'.
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I bet it's a lot easier to make a sufficiently grippy tire when you have 4 contract patches the size of dollars bills, vs 2 dime sized ones. Are the car tires made to be very light weight?

Also, early adopters always pay a tax. By summer these will be available at discounts.
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It might be interesting or enlightening if you were to send these snaps off to Continental directly with an innocent question as to whether they're sure the bike tire pricing is indeed correct.. just to see what type of rationale or response comes back.

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I'm still looking forward to hearing/reading some real world reviews about these tyres. Hopefully someone on the forums here will oblige.
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My LBS got a pair of the conti 5k tubeless, fit them to his bike, and promptly cancelled the order he had placed with his suppliers. Apparently they are an absolute b*tch to fit. He was pretty disappointed to be honest, as the GP4000ii were his most popular tyre. When my 4000s wear out, I will probably try the Pirelli tyres.
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Originally Posted by rivers View Post
My LBS got a pair of the conti 5k tubeless, fit them to his bike, and promptly cancelled the order he had placed with his suppliers. Apparently they are an absolute b*tch to fit. He was pretty disappointed to be honest, as the GP4000ii were his most popular tyre. When my 4000s wear out, I will probably try the Pirelli tyres.
Curious. What wheel was he fitting them to? Did he try any other wheels?
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Hmmm...

I flatted out my tubeless Schwalbe Pro One tires in the first week or so. Un-sealable hole.

The new Conti 5000TL tires might be fun to try.

When are they coming out with Tubeless Gator Hardshells?

In another thread, it was suggested that the Pirelli Cinturato Velo TLR would be a tougher alternative.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...x-5000-tl-2018
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...rato-velo-2018

Hmmm, so the GP5000 has a little lower rolling resistance than the Pirelli, but the Pirelli has extremely good puncture resistance.
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