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What power meter(s) to use?

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Old 01-07-19, 12:30 PM
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What power meter(s) to use?

I was able to get outside yesterday and ride a bit not on the trainer. I found myself really missing the power output. Once you have it I guess you want to keep it. I've begun looking at power options, I want something that measures both feet, not just one or the other. Some of the pedals look good because I can easily move them from bike to bike, but some folks do not like the pedals but haven't heard specific reasons why other than "they suck". Some of the reviews I have found make them seem like a solid option?

Any thoughts or recommendations on power meters would be appreciated.
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Old 01-07-19, 12:41 PM
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I like my Speedplays so pedal-based meters were out. I went with a Power2Max - it measures total power (rather than doubling the power from one side) and is relatively inexpensive ($490 for the spider-based sensor at the time that I purchased - you may need to replace your current crankset and/or chainrings depending upon compatibility). If I didn't have a Speedplay preference, I probably would have bought some Faveros.
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All the thoughts you would ever need: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/11/...yers-2018.html

I decided on dual PowerTap P1 pedals because Clever Training had an additional 20% off the newly discounted price during their winter sale. The only pedals that I've seen a lot of current negative issues around are the Garmin Vector 3s. I have no complaints about the PowerTaps - no issues with dropouts or moving them between bikes.
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Originally Posted by surak View Post
All the thoughts you would ever need: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/11/...yers-2018.html

I decided on dual PowerTap P1 pedals because Clever Training had an additional 20% off the newly discounted price during their winter sale. The only pedals that I've seen a lot of current negative issues around are the Garmin Vector 3s. I have no complaints about the PowerTaps - no issues with dropouts or moving them between bikes.
I won't touch another Garmin product...

Powertaps is what I had my eye for pedals, and thank you for posting that link.
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I've been using Vector 2s for years. They work great. Every now and then they'll get the cadence wrong for one second, they (maybe all pedal meters?) use accelerometers for that. Over the course of an hour or two it doesn't have an effect on anything. But if you want one too so the Chung method a hub might be a better bet.
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I bought the PowerTap G3 built into their DT Swiss rear wheel https://www.powertap.com/product/dt-...0-alloy-wheels for $499.

I got this so I could use my old wheel as a dedicated training wheel, might be a good idea if you like the trainer too and want to have an easy time switching out (you can keep a trainer tire on it).

Positives:
  • Supports BLE and Ant+
  • Battery lasts crazy long, easy to replace clock battery when the time comes
  • dual sided power (although it doesn't breakout each side's individual power)
  • Awesome support, I crashed, it stopped functioning, sent it to PowerTap, they fixed it no questions asked, at no cost
  • It broadcasts speed and cadence too, so be prepared to craigslist all your current sensors.
Cons:
  • If you just buy the hub you have to get it built into the wheel, this is + like $100
  • it's stuck in your wheel, if you have a bunch of road bikes that all can use the same cassette it's easy to switch it between them, pedals definitely win here.
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Originally Posted by firebird854 View Post
I bought the PowerTap G3 built into their DT Swiss rear wheel for $499.

I got this so I could use my old wheel as a dedicated training wheel, might be a good idea if you like the trainer too and want to have an easy time switching out (you can keep a trainer tire on it).

Positives:
  • Supports BLE and Ant+
  • Battery lasts crazy long, easy to replace clock battery when the time comes
  • dual sided power (although it doesn't breakout each side's individual power)
  • Awesome support, I crashed, it stopped functioning, sent it to PowerTap, they fixed it no questions asked, at no cost
  • It broadcasts speed and cadence too, so be prepared to craigslist all your current sensors.
Cons:
  • If you just buy the hub you have to get it built into the wheel, this is + like $100
  • it's stuck in your wheel, if you have a bunch of road bikes that all can use the same cassette it's easy to switch it between them, pedals definitely win here.
If you want to go this route, Powertap is having 30% off right now and they throw in a free wheel bag. I just bought the DTR460 wheel set in September or else I would definitely bite now. About $415 shipped to California for me. The G3 has been every bit as reliable as the P2M I also have on the bike.
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Originally Posted by OUGrad05 View Post
I won't touch another Garmin product...

Powertaps is what I had my eye for pedals, and thank you for posting that link.
Might look up some info on Favero Assiomas. Have heard nothing but good things, and while I have two different Powertap products (G3 and C1), I wouldn't get those enormously clunky pedals.
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I use a PowerPod from Velocomp. Reasonably priced and gives me the power data I need. It works nicely with my Wahoo Elemnt using speed and cadence sensors.
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If you want to go this route, Powertap is having 30% off right now and they throw in a free wheel bag. I just bought the DTR460 wheel set in September or else I would definitely bite now. About $415 shipped to California for me. The G3 has been every bit as reliable as the P2M I also have on the bike.
Powertap has 30% off right now? That includes wheels? Link me bro!
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Originally Posted by OUGrad05 View Post
Powertap has 30% off right now? That includes wheels? Link me bro!
Go to Powertaps website and look at their wheels! I can 't post the link.......<10 posts, haha.

Or follow the link in firebird854's post.

Let's try this Powertap Wheels!
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Thanks guys, no disc support it looks like
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$550 for a Powertap wheelset? What a difference 18 months makes. In May of 2017 I bought a G3 hub only for $600. I spent upwards of $200 additional for a rim, spokes & nipples. So, I spent about $800 for a Powertap rear wheel only, and I put in the hours building the wheel. Damm..
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I'm a fan of Power2Max - have a few Type-S PMs and they just work - simple, accurate, effective. Also have an SRM and these go as well as it does - with the added advantage, I can change the battery on the P2M, without having to send it off...

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I planned on getting a power meter for Christmas. I talked to a rep at Clevertraining.com and he said that they have had the least amount of problems with the Powertap pedals vs any other type of power meter. I bought the single side. I'll upgrade to both if I find it necessary.
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Been using single sided Favero Assioma pedals since May, swapping between two bikes, and I'm 100% happy. Not a single dropout or any other issue.
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I've used Powertap hubs, Powertap chainrings, and Stages single and dual sided. I like the powertap hub the best. It never gave me any problems and seemed to have the best temperature compensation. I was able to pick up a brand new Powertap GS hub for around $210. Bargain of the century, even more so because it is my favorite power meter among the ones I've tried. Its pretty much a DT Swiss 240/350 straight pull hub with a power meter built in, so it is very serviceable. It's a shame they discontinued it.
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But if you want one to do the Chung method a hub might be a better bet.
I use and recommend the PT wheel, especially if you can get it at $350.
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Powertap P1 dual sided. Been great for the 2+ years I have owned them.
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Buy a used SRM.
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If you need SPD, then pedals are out of the question (at the moment). My PowerTap G3 hub has about 13k miles, and has connected flawlessly to the Garmin 520 (not so much with my previous Garmin 800), and the battery lasts about 1,500 miles.
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Powertap P1 dual sided. Been great for the 2+ years I have owned them.
Did they sort out the high effort power issues they had with those early on? Did some reading last night and it seems like early reviews said they significantly over estimated efforts that were higher in power.
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Been using Assiomas for over a year. Solid, and good support when I had some software issues.
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I use a non drive side Stages Gen III. It has never failed or cut out and has always been very consistent.
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I have the Assiomas also, and have no problems with them. They are rechargeable and I've only had to recharge them twice in a year, even when I rode a lot. I never have any issues with connections either.
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