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Widest tire size on Specialized Allez Sprint Disk?

I've been going back and forth trying to determine if I need a gravel bike. But in all honesty a bike with disk brakes and 28-32mm tires will suit me fine. I really like the look of the new Allez disk having owned the rim brake version before. Can someone who owns the current Allez disk tell me if I can go as wide 32mm tires on this bike? If not, how about 28mm gravel tires? Thanks!
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Like the look? Ever look at a geometry chart for the sprint? I suspect no. Allez Sprint is a 'crit' bike, not a gravel bike.
If you want to gravel grind, look into buying a gravel bike with a lot of tire clearance. A Sprint 'may' fit 28c. It a race bike designed for smooth roads.
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I'd be surprised if a 28mm tire would fit in an Allez Sprint.

I have the previous generation Allez and 25/26mm is the biggest tire I can put in there.
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Like the look? Ever look at a geometry chart for the sprint? I suspect no. Allez Sprint is a 'crit' bike, not a gravel bike.
If you want to gravel grind, look into buying a gravel bike with a lot of tire clearance. A Sprint 'may' fit 28c. It a race bike designed for smooth roads.
Ever read someones complete post? I suspect no. If you had read my post you would know I'm fully aware of the Allez geometry since I owned the rim brake version. Also I'm looking for something that can do light duty gravel rides but mostly intended for bad weather and and occasional light duty gravel use. Something that I wouldn't mind beating up. BTW I love Campy wheels and drivetrain and use them on multiple bikes, but their fanboys are mostly cranky old men.
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I'd be surprised if a 28mm tire would fit in an Allez Sprint.

I have the previous generation Allez and 25/26mm is the biggest tire I can put in there.
Again, I'm fully aware the Allez Sprint RIM BRAKE is limited to 25-26mm tires since I owned one. My question was regarding the new disk version.
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Again, I'm fully aware the Allez Sprint RIM BRAKE is limited to 25-26mm tires since I owned one. My question was regarding the new disk version.
I was referring to the disc brake version of the Sprint.
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I was referring to the disc brake version of the Sprint.
You said you owned the previous generation Allez. Unless I'm mistaken, the disk version came out in 2019.
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You said you owned the previous generation Allez. Unless I'm mistaken, the disk version came out in 2019.
It came out in August of 2018.
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It came out in August of 2018.
I meant as a 2019 model.
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Ever read someones complete post? I suspect no. If you had read my post you would know I'm fully aware of the Allez geometry since I owned the rim brake version. Also I'm looking for something that can do light duty gravel rides but mostly intended for bad weather and and occasional light duty gravel use. Something that I wouldn't mind beating up. BTW I love Campy wheels and drivetrain and use them on multiple bikes, but their fanboys are mostly cranky old men.
Your last comment, Shimano lost two pro teams in pro racing to Campy.
Forgive me, but an Allez Sprint is a silly choice for gravel riding. What is cool about life is people largely get what they deserve so I hope you get one...lol.
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Your last comment, Shimano lost two pro teams in pro racing to Campy.
Forgive me, but an Allez Sprint is a silly choice for gravel riding. What is cool about life is people largely get what they deserve so I hope you get one...lol.
I was right. You are a cranky old man who clearly does not finish reading someones post. First of all why would I be disappointed at Shimano losing two pro teams to Campagnolo? I own two Italian bikes that ride on Bora Ultras and new SR 12-speed. And for the occasional venture into gravel, any disk bike will be good enough limited gravel use. Now go back to your dark hole.
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I was right. You are a cranky old man who clearly does not finish reading someones post. First of all why would I be disappointed at Shimano losing two pro teams to Campagnolo? I own two Italian bikes that ride on Bora Ultras and new SR 12-speed. And for the occasional venture into gravel, any disk bike will be good enough limited gravel use. Now go back to your dark hole.
For socal "gravel" I would recommend at least 38C tyres.
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I was right. You are a cranky old man who clearly does not finish reading someones post. First of all why would I be disappointed at Shimano losing two pro teams to Campagnolo? I own two Italian bikes that ride on Bora Ultras and new SR 12-speed. And for the occasional venture into gravel, any disk bike will be good enough limited gravel use. Now go back to your dark hole.
Bro, I was trying to help you and you insulted me. Gravel bikes are more than just tire clearance and disc brakes. I won't even mention that the Sprint is Al which does not attenuate road shock as well as carbon. I own a 2018 Allez Elite btw.

Just about 'any' bike with suitable tire clearance and disc capability is better than a Sprint. Period. Why? The fact you are considering a Sprint with discs explains you don't know. It is about not only how aggressive the Spring geometry is...but head tube angle, chainstay length and seat tube angle. The Sprint is an out and out Crit bike designed to race on tarmac. It is even too aggressive to ride the tarmac as an all arounder let along ride gravel.

So pretty clear you don't know anything about bikes. Now you can disparage me to detract that you not only don't know bikes but had the audacity to insult me...a guy who knows a lot about bikes...but its pretty transparent.

Again, the Sprint is about the worse choice of gravel bike you could make and therefore since you have proven what a nice guy you are, I hope you get one...lol.
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For socal "gravel" I would recommend at least 38C tyres.
Oh no...don't tell him that even though its true. 38c on a Sprint would be like F150 tires on a Porsche. I know, he'll make it work..lol.
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Oh no...don't tell him that even though its true. 38c on a Sprint would be like F150 tires on a Porsche. I know, he'll make it work..lol.
I guess having 12K plus posts makes you an expert on bikes, an armchair version, right? Maybe you should get off your Campy BB and go out riding instead of posting so much? I bet you would be less bitter a bit more social, and most likely, more fit.
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For socal "gravel" I would recommend at least 38C tyres.
No doubt gravel tire in the 38-45mm would be the best option for a gravel specific bike. But I'm not looking for a gravel specific bike. I just want a disk frame that allows at least 28mm tires which would allow me to ride with more confidence in rainy weather (like this week) with occasional ride through gravel.
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No doubt gravel tire in the 38-45mm would be the best option for a gravel specific bike. But I'm not looking for a gravel specific bike. I just want a disk frame that allows at least 28mm tires which would allow me to ride with more confidence in rainy weather (like this week) with occasional ride through gravel.
I'd still recommend something with more tyre clearance at least to allow for fenders. Our streets are gross enough when dry and I would not want that stuff sprayed all over my back. I think you'll need at least 35mm clearance to fully fender a 28mm tyre.
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I guess having 12K plus posts makes you an expert on bikes, an armchair version, right? Maybe you should get off your Campy BB and go out riding instead of posting so much? I bet you would be less bitter a bit more social, and most likely, more fit.
No, wrong again. High thread count doesn't make me an expert. I am an expert because of my involvement with the sport. You clearly aren't or wouldn't consider a crit bike for even light foray rides on gravel. I was trying to help you not make the mistake of buying a crit bike for gravel riding and you in turn insulted me.

A, you wouldn't have asked the question if you knew the answer and B I explained that its 'physics' why a crit bike is bad for gravel riding aka frame geometry and limited tire clearance and you double down on insults. I hope you get the Sprint. Honestly the Sprint is the wrong bike for 90% of those that want a roadbike who 'never go off pavement'. Its because of the weight distribution on the bike with shallow seat tube angle, short chainstays and rougher ride of more upright head tube angle. Almost anybody who doesn't crit race would be better served by a bike with more laid out angles whether they ride on pavement...but especially on gravel where attenuation of road shock is critical. Btw, the sprint for the $$ being Aluminum is one of the best crit bikes on the planet and maybe the best crit bike for the dollar...what is designed for...high speed, quick turning and has aero cues and massive BB for hard accelerations. A gravel bike has a completely different agenda notably longer chainstays and more laid back head tube...and longer head tube, longer wheelbase, more laid back seat tube angle...to get rider CG back and more laid out angles absorb the thrashing of gravel grinding.

What I wrote is simply fact. You can drive a 911 off road as well but in stock form simply the wrong tool for the job.

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Not a gravel-specific bike, but has lots of clearance and comes equipped with 30mm tires. Endurance road geometry, so not as fast handling as an Allez. An all-day rider regardless or terrain. SBC familial resemblance to the Allez, sans the aero bits.

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No, wrong again. High thread count doesn't make me an expert. I am an expert because of my involvement with the sport. You clearly aren't or wouldn't consider a crit bike for even light foray rides on gravel. I was trying to help you not make the mistake of buying a crit bike for gravel riding and you in turn insulted me.

A, you wouldn't have asked the question if you knew the answer and B I explained that its 'physics' why a crit bike is bad for gravel riding aka frame geometry and limited tire clearance and you double down on insults. I hope you get the Sprint. Honestly the Sprint is the wrong bike for 90% of those that want a roadbike who 'never go off pavement'. Its because of the weight distribution on the bike with shallow seat tube angle, short chainstays and rougher ride of more upright head tube angle. Almost anybody who doesn't crit race would be better served by a bike with more laid out angles whether they ride on pavement...but especially on gravel where attenuation of road shock is critical. Btw, the sprint for the $$ being Aluminum is one of the best crit bikes on the planet and maybe the best crit bike for the dollar...what is designed for...high speed, quick turning and has aero cues and massive BB for hard accelerations. A gravel bike has a completely different agenda notably longer chainstays and more laid back head tube...and longer head tube, longer wheelbase, more laid back seat tube angle...to get rider CG back and more laid out angles absorb the thrashing of gravel grinding.

What I wrote is simply fact. You can drive a 911 off road as well but in stock form simply the wrong tool for the job.
I didn't ask you nor anyone else about gravel bike buying advice. I simply asked what was the tire clearance for an Allez disk. If you don't know it simply stop posting here. Your keyboard expertice is not needed here.
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